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Hi, I am new to the forum and live in Naples, Florida. I just refurbished my old black horse and was wandering how much they are in demand. I am a retired o.p.e. mechanic and did all of the work myself. I have owned the tiller since 1998 and am the second owner. I used the horse 4 times for a total of about 3 hours. It is in super mechanical condition. The decals are a little rough. Thanks in advance to any responders
 

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Hi, I am new to the forum and live in Naples, Florida. I just refurbished my old black horse and was wandering how much they are in demand. I am a retired o.p.e. mechanic and did all of the work myself. I have owned the tiller since 1998 and am the second owner. I used the horse 4 times for a total of about 3 hours. It is in super mechanical condition. The decals are a little rough. Thanks in advance to any responders
New Craftsman 5HP tiller at Lowes is $1,000. They aren't nearly as well built of a machine as your Horse. Around here in MS, a Horse Tiller goes for between $400 - $700, depending on condition and whether it's a I, II, or III. To have super low hours on a tiller is not unusual, unless it's been used in a green house operation. A tiller usually gets used less than 5 hours per growing season. That's why you see so many of the 50 year old Horse I tillers still around and working just fine. A 50 year old tiller might only have 200-250 hours on it, even if it was used every planting season since the 70's. The ones with the lesser values are the ones that came with the Tecumseh flat head engines and that is only because Tecumseh has been out of business for 14 years and parts are getting tough to find and only going to get worse.

Chassis parts are readily available for all models and if a Tecumseh engine pukes, most guys just re-power with a 6.5HP Harbor Freight Predator for $149. A new 7HP Kohler CH270 horizontal runs about $500 and it's made in China also. My understanding is that only 10HP and above Kohlers are still made in the USA and they are made in their Hattiesburgh MS plant. Kohler no longer has any engine production at all in Kohler WI.
 

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New Craftsman 5HP tiller at Lowes is $1,000. They aren't nearly as well built of a machine as your Horse. Around here in MS, a Horse Tiller goes for between $400 - $700, depending on condition and whether it's a I, II, or III. To have super low hours on a tiller is not unusual, unless it's been used in a green house operation. A tiller usually gets used less than 5 hours per growing season. That's why you see so many of the 50 year old Horse I tillers still around and working just fine. A 50 year old tiller might only have 200-250 hours on it, even if it was used every planting season since the 70's. The ones with the lesser values are the ones that came with the Tecumseh flat head engines and that is only because Tecumseh has been out of business for 14 years and parts are getting tough to find and only going to get worse.

Chassis parts are readily available for all models and if a Tecumseh engine pukes, most guys just re-power with a 6.5HP Harbor Freight Predator for $149. A new 7HP Kohler CH270 horizontal runs about $500 and it's made in China also. My understanding is that only 10HP and above Kohlers are still made in the USA and they are made in their Hattiesburgh MS plant. Kohler no longer has any engine production at all in Kohler WI.
Thanks for the information. I figured that since the tiller was made for such a limited time, that it would have more value and collector incentive. It has the Kohler 8hp magnum and now runs super strong. I really like the machine. My wife wants me to sell it.
 

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Thanks for the information. I figured that since the tiller was made for such a limited time, that it would have more value and collector incentive. It has the Kohler 8hp magnum and now runs super strong. I really like the machine. My wife wants me to sell it.
"I figured that since the tiller was made for such a limited time, that it would have more value and collector incentive"

Troy-Bilt made a "Horse" tiller in one form or another for a REALLY long time.... The first was a "Trojan Horse" introduced in April of 1962. The picture below is of a mid-60's Trojan Horse. That's a K91 4HP flat head Kohler, but you'll notice the design of the tiller is basically the same as yours..... Why change something that works

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Yes it is an old one. I am 72 and as a former small engine and outdoor power equipment mechanic, I have worked on a bunch of machines in my time. I really enjoy it still to this day. I have many old machines around which still run, like my 1978 Hoffco Power Scythe. I am trying to find sources for parts for different machines like my McCulloch Pro 700 and 850 saws.
 

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I gave up working on most anything with a pull cord for the public a couple of years ago, there's just no money in it, and battery power is going to take that whole market out of the small engine repair business in the next 5 years. When I did work on chainsaws, these guys were a pretty good source for older model Mac parts...... Anything over $150 is free shipping. If they don't have in stock, they'll offer to put you on a list, or point you in a direction

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I gave up working on most anything with a pull cord for the public a couple of years ago, there's just no money in it, and battery power is going to take that whole market out of the small engine repair business in the next 5 years. When I did work on chainsaws, these guys were a pretty good source for older model Mac parts...... Anything over $150 is free shipping

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I understand the little money thing and small engines. I also have a plant nursery business which does not make any money as well. You are right about the battery thing. It has taken over the electric plug in tool business as well. I do not know how many Dewalt and Milwaukee cordless tools I use at this time. Thanks for the Mcculloch info. I will check with them.
 

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I understand the little money thing and small engines. I also have a plant nursery business which does not make any money as well. You are right about the battery thing. It has taken over the electric plug in tool business as well. I do not know how many Dewalt and Milwaukee cordless tools I use at this time. Thanks for the Mcculloch info. I will check with them.
I understand the little money thing and small engines. I also have a plant nursery business which does not make any money as well. You are right about the battery thing. It has taken over the electric plug in tool business as well. I do not know how many Dewalt and Milwaukee cordless tools I use at this time. Thanks for the Mcculloch info. I will check with them.
 
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