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The tires on the '69 1050 I picked up a few weeks ago have some cracks and the front right is about ready to split in one place although it looks like it has a tube inside. Was thinking of AG tires for the rear since my other tractors have turf tires. What would be a good choice for the fronts with AG's on the rear? Ribbed? Turf?
 

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The only ribbed I found at cedar rapids tire are grooved like the older car tires before radials came out. Do you think these are OK? The size is 16x6.50-8 on front the rears are 23x8.50-12
 

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Originally posted by sixchows
Argee
The only ribbed I found at cedar rapids tire are grooved like the older car tires before radials came out. Do you think these are OK? The size is 16x6.50-8 on front the rears are 23x8.50-12
I have that style on my Ingersolls.[or did anyway, the 444 has turf's now] I dont like them. They slide to the side on anything. Dirt, grass, snow. Yuck!

Went with an aggressive turf on my 444,[looks like little dog bones, don;t remember the name] and they were better, but still not happy with them. Nice in the grass though. I think they will go on my 224, and go with something else on the 444. Maybe bar tread style??

What are you planning to use the tractor for?
 

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Originally posted by sixchows
Argee
The only ribbed I found at cedar rapids tire are grooved like the older car tires before radials came out. Do you think these are OK? The size is 16x6.50-8 on front the rears are 23x8.50-12

Regardless of the tire you get go with the larger 16 x 7.5-8 size
instead. It fits fine on the same rim, in a 4 ply at least it will be wider and taller, and will improve traction over what you have now...if it was me turfs in the front, AG's in the rear...in snow the blower will give you plenty of front end weight...or maybe you have too much rear suitcase weights, making the front end too light?

I just noticed your rears are 23 x 8.5 x 12....why not use a 23 x 9.5 x 12 (Same rim) or 23 x 10.5 x 12 ( made for wider rim, but fits fine on 7.5")..providing you have clearance with mower deck or frame

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sixchow will any of these work

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There are some good points here. No tire is going to work unless you have 4WD or some sort of ballast on the front to get the tires in severe contact with the ground.

I'll give an example. While disking with my FNH1715 in 2WD I was going up a slight grade in some relatively loose soil, I started loosing steering control....slipped it into 4WD and end of problem. Now this 1715 has Ag tires all around and a FEL on it, so there is added ballast on the front tires, but still they broke loose on that grade when I had weight and work going on in the back end. I could have filled my bucket with ballast and probably maintained steering. When plowing with a 2B-14" plow, I loose some steering ability even in 4WD, that's when I need to add ballast to the bucket.

I used to plow and disk with my GT and can recall having the wheels cranked all the way L or R and kept going straight ahead. I made some suitcase weights that added 100 lbs to the front end and it cured the steering problem.
 

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I really don't have any traction problems with the locking diff. although I put chains on for snow, have never used or needed wheel weights. But for using the mouldboard plow it doesn't need chains. It does sometimes slide on the front tires even with the blower but not too bad.
As for going to a larger/wider tire, I'm not sure. I have some attachments that may or may not fit with larger tires. I really don't want to limit the usefullness of the tractor.
 

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That's an interesting idea. How would it ride? I see the seller advises mounting them reversed, is it true they will steer better like that?
 

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Originally posted by Ingersoll444
I have that style on my Ingersolls.[or did anyway, the 444 has turf's now] I dont like them. They slide to the side on anything. Dirt, grass, snow. Yuck!

Went with an aggressive turf on my 444,[looks like little dog bones, don;t remember the name] and they were better, but still not happy with them. Nice in the grass though. I think they will go on my 224, and go with something else on the 444. Maybe bar tread style??

What are you planning to use the tractor for?
Is this the tire you're speaking of?

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/snowhog.jpg

What didn't you like about them?
 

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sixchows,

You might want to consider using the lug tires on the front. 16 x 6.50 x 8’s
I put them on the front of my 1250 and while they don’t ride like turf’s,
they’re not nearly as bad as I thought they would be. I have only moved the
tractor on a concrete or asphalt surface but I’ll bet the difference between the
bars and turfs is even less when riding on soft dirt or grass. I would think they
would be much more resistive to sliding than the turfs, especially in soft ground.

Lugs on all 4 corners with a JBjr on the front would defiantly be a set-up I would
vote for. Remember my motto “If it Looks Good, it Must be Better”
 

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Did you mount the fronts with the tread pattern reversed? I've heard they should point the opposite way when mounted on un-driven front wheels. Does it feel like Fred Flintstone with all four?:D
 

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sixchows…

Yab-A-Dab-A-Do :elephant:

The first time I ever heard anyone talk about mounting lugs backwards
was on the GW forum. After considering some of the other things I’ve
read on that forum, I really can’t give that opinion too much credence.

I’ve been around a good number of tractors on Long Island’s small farms
and I have never seen a set of lugs mounted backwards. Come to think of
it I really can’t recall ever seeing lugs mounted on non-driven wheels. But
understanding how the tires clear themselves, I don’t see how mounting
them backwards would work as well as normal mounting.

Does anyone on this forum have any experience where they found that
reverse mounted lugs worked better than normal mounting ?
 

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Originally posted by Styx
Is this the tire you're speaking of?

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/snowhog.jpg

What didn't you like about them?

Npe not them. They are a Carlisle, I think trutrac? They do work great on the grass, but still pack up with mud a lot. Not as bad as the ribbed though.


found it...........

<img src=http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/carlisle_specialty/trfmate.jpg>
 

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sixchows did you find any tires yet:question:
 

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Seems like too many choices:D I'm thinking Carlisle Turf Trac R/S for the front, but haven't decided on the rear. Maybe AGs or Turf King. Not sure if AGs will tear up the grass, although most replies say there are OK as long as you don't spin them.
 

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Originally posted by sixchows
Jody
Seems like too many choices:D I'm thinking Carlisle Turf Trac R/S for the front, but haven't decided on the rear. Maybe AGs or Turf King. Not sure if AGs will tear up the grass, although most replies say there are OK as long as you don't spin them.
I put on Carlisle ATV mud and snows...they have a bar tread down the center with knobbys going out to the side. I had them over the lawn with wet soil and they have done NO damage. Somewhere I have a picture..I'll find it and get it posted,
 
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