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I agree with right to privacy and all that.. but for me.. If they asked for my fingerprints and DNA to keep on file that would be fine..

I know this is a privacy thing.. but too bad.. if i rob a bank or rape a woman or kill someone.. they would already have my DNA and prints on file. so too bad for me..


If i gave my fingerprints and DNA that is not really a breech of my privacy.. its more a helpful way for authorities to ID someone who breaks the law...


so they can have my prints..
 

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I don't think it's that big of a deal. We have to give our SSN number out for so many things today and that is risky for identity theft, credit, etc.

We are eventually going to get to the point that scanning your hand, eye, body, etc is going to be a form of autenication verification to purchase things anyways.

I'm sure someone can give us an example of why this is bad for us....
 

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Has anyone ever heard of anyone getting falsely accused of something based on a faulty fingerprint or DNA match??? Just curious cause I never did.
 

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Originally posted by wheely_boy
Has anyone ever heard of anyone getting falsely accused of something based on a faulty fingerprint or DNA match??? Just curious cause I never did.
Me neither WB.... They should start a national database of DNA and fingerprints at birth or whatever age the prints are developed.. for the few rights that could be abused.. it could
assist in solving tons of unsolved crimes with prints and or DNA.


There is no reason NOT to do it...
 

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There are free programs to get your kids fingerprinted which is intended to help locate them later if they are misplaced, lost, stolen, etc.
 

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All of that finger print, DNA, and personal information you give up will make it so much easier for the BATF to find you and confiscate your weapon or ammunition, maybe take away your computer to analyze its hard drive if you make any political enemies. I don't want big brother to know a damn thing about me if possible (and it is not) but the less they know the better.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin
 

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Maybe we could get a chip or better yet a number imprinted on us to use for trade and business purposes...oh wait, I have heard of that somewhere before --- Oh, yeah here it is:

"Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six." (Revelation 13:16-18 RSV)

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chief just because they have my DNA does not mean they will take my guns... But if your wife or daughter was raped..or if my wife were raped, if they had a DNA database they would be able to determine who did it.. Isnt that worth giving up a few liberties?

I vote yes.
 

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Maybe we could get a chip or better yet a number imprinted on us to use for trade and business purposes...oh wait, I have heard of that somewhere before --- Oh, yeah here it is:
Amen to that Andy!
 

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Originally posted by simple_john
chief just because they have my DNA does not mean they will take my guns... But if your wife or daughter was raped..or if my wife were raped, if they had a DNA database they would be able to determine who did it.. Isnt that worth giving up a few liberties?

I vote yes.
No comment on the HELLISH BEAST, SJ?

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I don't want to get too deep into this one, but I have read that passage several times and I recall that it said the mark would be "inside" the forehead. King James version. The Bible IMHO can be interpeted many different ways. Which way is often a matter of opnion or denomonation.
 

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Perhaps we can replace the counter with this one I made up:

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ED, Dunno this is what I have always found ------

"A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: 'If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. This calls for patient endurance on the part of THE SAINTS who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus' " (Rev. 14:9-12).

THE HELLISH FIRE!

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chief just because they have my DNA does not mean they will take my guns... But if your wife or daughter was raped..or if my wife were raped, if they had a DNA database they would be able to determine who did it.. Isnt that worth giving up a few liberties?
Why stop there? Next will be drug testing for your kids, drug testing for you at work, back doors to all financial accounts for Big Brother to access and control. Heck, even a tracking system that watches your credit card and checking account to follow and watch what you purchase. That makes it real easy to find criminals and those who might be buying components for bombs or methamphetamine. Better yet.............let's just change the principle values of the justice system...........guilty until proven innocent. Let's not forget the micro-chip beneath the skin for everyone so Big Brother can readily identify everything about you like your ethnic background, religion, genetic flaws, even your political association.

Not trying to be a smart ass John; just trying to illustrate how absolute power can corrupt absolutely.

John, they already have neat provision in places like China, Syria, and North Korea. Think you would like living in one of those places?

I vote for freedom and fiercely protecting mine and your God given rights and freedoms. :usa: :thumbsup: :usa:

I have spent 21 years of my life working to protect them and I am not about to concede one iota.

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i am not for drug testing.. god knows id have failed as a student... and i would not be suprised if all our banking & charge card transactions are being watched, i dont doubt that cell calls are being monitored..
But if people knew their DNA was on file, maybe they would not do some of the things they do.


Theres plenty of unsolved crimes out there.. many horrific, so if they do the crime and it is traceable.. i say trace away...
 

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Originally posted by simple_john
andy I always suspected you of being a satan worshiper... (tractorguy told me once)


now i know its true...
HAHAHA Cmon now, How about some credit for the creative little counter at least? <img src=http://www.tractorforum.com/666.gif>

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I for one will not give my fingerprint or DNA if i commit a crime then they have a right to get my fingerprint. When they had that serial killer here that they caught last year they went around taking DNA sample of white male all over. Anyone who was a white male that fit the profile come to find out it was a black mans DNA but they didn't bother to check to see what race till after he kill two more woman. And all of the people that they took DNA samples from or trying to sue to get them back cause they don't want to give it back. I have never been arrested for anything so they will not get my fingerprints or DNA for anything unless i do something wrong. Its not right it will never be right they just want to make it easy for them to do there work. I have had many a drug test for work and to get my CDL i don't mine a drug test cause i have nothing to worry about i don't do drugs. I don't want no one with that kind of power over me.
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