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I went to a lowes store last night, of course I had to check out L&G dept. They had a Troy-bilt garden tractor, a cub 1525, and a bolens garden tractor. I looked at a bolens last year at this same store last year and noticed that this was the same machine! I know that it is the same one because there is a suff on the rear fender. Same price too $1899.00

I wonder if anyone has bought a bolens GT? I ask this because I was looking at them and considering one before I bought my craftsman.
 

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They are not

Its a MTD in sheep's clothing not at all like the old Bolens these are cheap.
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It would have to drop lower then $1499.00 before it would sell.Look at the light duty rear axel in that thing.It is not a hydro either.The only thing Bolen about it is the name on the hood.That decal even appears to be made cheap to me.
 

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A lot of people who don't own MTD's moan about how cheap they are. Then someone pops up with a 25yo one that still runs like new. There are no cheap tractors only cheap owners :doubledev
 

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I did not say all MTD products are cheap.I own a Cub Cadet and it is not cheap.My parents own a Yardman that has had some issues but has done very well on there large lawn for several years.I have a Yardman push mower that I would put against an expensive brand any day.Im sure the Bolens you talk about is fine also.But the non hydro yet they call it a automatic is what makes it a model atleast I would avoid.There are many other better buys out there.They try to deceave the consumer with making then believe it is a Garden tractor.Just like they deceave about it being an automatic.Most think it is a hydro until they look close.The transmission appears to be no tuffer then you can find in a 1500 series Cub.The 1500 series Cub is a lawn tractor not a garden tractor.Those large tire found on the Bolens do not fool me.
 

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Now wait a min

johndeere the 1500 Cub is a hydro 7 piston pump and it has a 1" axle its a heavy duty transmission. But you are right the 1500s are not a GT its a LT. The Bolens uses some pullies and call it an automatic.
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"They try to deceave the consumer with making then believe it is a Garden tractor."


I must disagree with both of you on this, If you explore the MTD web site you will find that MTD sells 2 types of sleeve hitches for this tractor, a 48" dozer blade and a pto driven rear tiller.... I do agree that Bolens, yardman, Troybilt, or White are not as good as cub but there again you have to look at the price difference.

Obviously, MTD are selling these tractors otherwise they would not offer them year after year. I would like to hear from owners of these units to see how they are holding up.

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Iwas talking about the Cub 1500s are LTs not the Bolens
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I only Wish

I knew something about either of these machines so I could join this bloodbath!
 

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Jody I reread your post... my bad... BTW This lowes I was at had a cub 1525 with a kaw engine... I understand these are not being made any more? How long were they made? I have never heard any thing bad about them. Are they getting scarce?
 

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Ed they made the 1500s for 2 years the first year they had the 1515 it had a Kohler then they put a 15hp kaw and named it 1525. this year its the same LT but with a Briggs and and JD Ls hood and its called the 1000s sereis. I very happy with my 1525 so i guess its a colleter now:smiles:
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Jodyand I was complimenting the 1500 series not knocking it.My point was the 1500 series is a lawn tractor yet has a heavier transaxel then the Bolens Garden tractor.The 1500 series is a nice machine.The Bolens is a light duty Garden tractor would be fine for mowing grass but not much good for any real ground breaking chores.
 

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In the 2003 Lowes catalog thet offer 3 Bolens lawn tractors and 1 Bolens garden tractor all low end stuff. The garden tractor doesn't even have a cast iron front axle. The real kick is in the front of the catalog they show a late '60's Bolens 1250, and talk about how great these tractors have been since 1850. The 1250 was a large frame 3pt hitch front and rear pto hydro trans foot pedal control hyraulic lift w/down pressure built in not added on and a 12hp wisconsin engine. This is the heritage they imply for these new mtd machines.
These new ones showup on ebay from time to time there's one there now 5months old starting bid $650 and no takers yet. Guess they waited 4 months too long to return it.
I don't have any problem with the machine itself but they are definately disrespectinng a great name. Just hope MTD continues to treat CUB better, they better sell a lot of the 5000 series or some mtd exec will think the low end stuff is the future, after all volume is what makes money they really don't have much regard for tradition. What happens to cub when some mtd guy who knows nothing about cubs history takes over one day?
 

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Originally posted by Argee
Jody.....I think yur tractor is purty!!!!:lmao:
Isnt it:smiles:
Jody

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MTD Employs Americans

A lot of people on this site and the "other" one bash MTD, and I would only consider a Cub or White (I have a Craftsman DLT 3000). But, MTD employs a lot of Amercians. They still make their products in the USA, they make their transmission here etc. They provide a product that a lot of people must buy. Many peole do not care about the tractors that much, and just go to the nearest Lowes when they move in and say "oh, Troy Bilt that must be good", or "oh, Bolens my dad had one of those" and buy it.

We can bash their quality, but with so many companies moving to China, I think it is good that the are Made in the USA!

Cliff Claven should go to their factory with his new show 'Made in Amercia" Good show if you have not seen it. Tuesday at 9:00 pm
on Travel,Discovery or one of those chanels

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Poor Ol' bolens

I have the CC 1529, and I think it's great. I don't know about the tranny, but I like the way it handles. A good mechanic who works on Mustangs says the Kawasaki is great. Of course the drive shaft on the 2180 is better, but what lasts forever? For that matter, who lasts forever? There's a point of diminishing returns and for me it's anything over $1799 + tx.

I won't be doing the south 40, but it'll take care of the yard. I've seen many questions about Cub and MTD. One reasonably informed member said that despite information to the contrary, and reputation not withstanding, the fine CC's of the mid-eighties through today have all been made by MTD. Ownership is one thing. Integrity is another. In fact, one small engine repairman said the small JD's are made by MTD. Hey, look at the auto industry. And Dell, HP and IBM all have one company putting the parts together which they buy from yet another sub-contractor before they stamp their JQ Logo on the PC. It's all marketing till you get to the door.
 
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