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Hello,

I posted this message on gardenweb and only got a few responses:

I am finally ready to make a decision on a tractor. I mow approx 1.5 acres and have some slight inclines. I care about ultimate cut and would like to give a try at lawn striping. I do care about getting a bagger and some other attachments in the future. I got it narrowed to 2.

Tractor 1
Simplicity Prestige 50" deck
20 hp Kohler Command
k-71 tranny w/ diff lock
Power steering
hydraulic lift, etc.
$5700

Tractor 2
Simplicity Conquest 50" deck
20 hp briggs vanguard
k-66 tranny w/ diff lock
manual assist lift, etc.
$4500

More info can be found at the simplicity website.

Is the prestige that better of a tractor? I currently have an old Ingersol Case hydriv 224 and cant really compare to the newer ones.

Any info appreciated as well as how much I should offer for these machines besides the MSRP. (someone said that the pricing above was about $400 too much)

I am leaning towards the Prestige, but am looking for a real life out the door price for a prestige with a 3 bin bagger.

And since I am posting, What are the pros/cons of the different deck sizes. I heard its easier to mow around obstacles in the yard with a wider deck? Pictures of my yard can be found here: http://www.letsrace.com/landscape/landscape.htm

they are a couple years old, but you will get the idea.

Thanks in advance, I need to mow soon

Mike
 

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First let me say welcome to TF!:)


As for the tractors, looks to me like you cant go wrong eather way. What attachments are you planing to use? If you are not planing any liftable type attachments,plow,tiller,rake,etc, I would probably got the Conquest route. If you are planning a lot of Garden type work, that hydro life wile not mandatory, will realy come in handy.

Now prices? I cant help with that
 

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welcome to the forum viper...


In my opinion... . Go for the prestige all the way. But its your extra money to spend...

resons i went for the prestige:

Power steering: i did not think it was a big deal but i am so glad i got it.. it makes backing up a trailer wicked easy.. Or moving around in general much better...

Hydraulic lift: not too important for cutting but great if you plan to use a snow thrower


Locking Diff on the prestige. Excellent feature.
The stronger tranny: we all want stronger right?


Engines: I personally like the kohler engines better than briggs - just becasue ive had kohlers before and even though they run real rough when they are cold, and smoke on occasion when they start.. I like them. I think the briggs may be made overseas.. or parts of it are made overseas.. I think the kohler is made in the US.



Bagger: I did not go for the bagger as with the prestige it was about 700$ (i think) I did not even get a mulching kit.. I just cut it regular and swept the lawn on the few occasions when the grass was too high..

This winter i got gator blades (mulching blades)
Why pull all the nutrients into a bag to dump somewhere else.. leave them on your lawn.



Deck Size: I went with the 50" the 54 would have been too big to fit in my shed door. Plus the 54 is a lot heavier than the 50 and a little tougher to get off - just becasue of its weight.
On the 50, the deck comes off in about 1 minute.. very slick.


They are both real nice machines but i went with the prestige. They are on the same sized frame. but the prestige is a bit bigger


My cost was 5700$ with tax for the pestige 50" deck 20HP


Striping: Both do it..
Heres a link to some stiping pics:
http://www.apartofme.com/striping.htm

Nothing fancy: and yes, i bought the book they tout on simplicity.. it shows great examples of striping..


I wont bore all the other members with more pics of my tractor.. but here is a link if you are interested..

http://www.apartofme.com/pics.htm



welcome to the forum.. feel free to ask anything if you have any questions..

sj
 

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Thanks for the replys Ingersol and simple john.

The only attachment I can see using would be a garden tiller.

I did purchase the "Picture Perfect" book as well as a few other lawn books. ;-) and would like to give lawn striping a try.

I thought about one of those zero turn but I do want a multipurpose tractor and one that the wife could use to cart her flowers and stuff if needed.

I have been forum member on here for a while, just lurked. It lost the url and it took me a while to find it again.

For the record, I do plan on mulching most of the time, I would just like to have a bagger for leaves and incase I have alot of weeds like I do now and dont want to redistribute them to my lawn. (seeded and put in irrigation last year)

simple john, I am glad to hear you say that you can get the deck on and off in about a minute, that is exactly what I want. Its a pain doing it with my ingersol case 224 (for me)

I am also glad to hear about the power steering, I thought that and tilt would be too much and not very usable. I still know people that dont have that in their cars! ;-)

Thanks for the help guys, I am trying to make a purchase real soon. I figure I might as well spend extra money up front and be happy with what I have and hopefully it will last longer.

Mike

PS. Simple, I have seen your tractor and lawn many times from visiting here and garenweb. I do like the chrome!!
 

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sold by simplicity..
But please dont get them.... :hand:


Jody just got hubs. and if you get chrome too, my tractor wont be special any more..
:cry:


good luck let us know what you get..


BTW: how much for the tiller?




i think the bagger for the conquest is much cheaper because the prestige is a turbo bagger and more money.. (I think) correct me if im wrong.
 

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Originally posted by simple_john
sold by simplicity..
But please dont get them.... :hand:


Jody just got hubs. and if you get chrome too, my tractor wont be special any more..
:cry:


good luck let us know what you get..


Welcome viper8u2:friends: Glad to have you aboard.

sj you have a Simplicity i have a Cub Cadet so your is still different and beside unless i get a bumper and take it and have it chromed i wont have a chrome bumper:D
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What are you talking about jody??
thats not chrome... Its platinum....
:furious:


<img src=http://www.apartofme.com/images/bumper.jpg>
 

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I propose you guys chrome the engine and mirror the engine compartment, Chrome the rear ends...that would be sweet

Careful Simple_John some folks over at GW dont like Supersize photo's...not like we care what they think overall....

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Originally posted by ducati996
Careful Simple_John some folks over at GW dont like Supersize photo's...not like we care what they think overall....

Duc

i know.. sorry to all -here and there.. i saw some posts referring to the pic complaints but did not know what thread it was from.. what was the thread?? was it mine specifically or just in general?

I have them large on the site that i link to.. i guess i can start making them smaller at the site..... its just an extra step...



sorry stew.. couldnt help it.. man i think its a sickness..
 

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Hello My name is Simple John, and I am addicted to chrome and Armor all!

At least you admit you have an addiction! :D

It is just fun to give you a hard time about it! Not to mention it does look nice!
 

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Simple_john,

No, No it dosent really apply to you at all. It was directed towards me by a member over there (GW)....I wont drag whats over there here at all, so I'll leave names out...

Dont applogize at all, and it wasnt meant for you to feel bad

I enjoy the pictures in their native format....I cant speak if it eats up bandwidth, but they are nice pictures..

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Originally posted by Stewart
Hello My name is Simple John, and I am addicted to chrome and Armor all!


admission is the 1st step...

technically its 303 protectant.. not armor-all... but yes..
i admit it.. i may be a bit compulsive...


Duc: I pm'd you.. just being nosey
 

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ok an update,

Is this a good deal?

Simplicity Prestige
50" deck
20hp Kohler
Power Steering, etc
full 2yr Warranty
Demo unit with 30 hours
$4995

3 bin bagger $630
mulch kit $135

I have gotten burned buying used before, but this is just broken in and has full warranty.

Thanks,

Mike
 

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thats 700$ off what i paid.. odes simplicity still have 0% financing? that helps take the bite out of the high price..


how much for the tiller???
 

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Hello John,

I did not ask about the tiller price yet, i will be stopping by later. I was planning on getting it later down the road.

I will let you know,

Did you purchase new? This unit has 30 hours on it. I will be paying cash so the zero percent interest doesnt really appeal to me.

Who ever thought buy a tractor was such hard work.... ;-)

Thanks,

Mike
 

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new but it had been at their shop for a few months had 4.9 hours on it... As soon as i got it delivered and the guy pulled away from my driveway.. it turned 5 hours and the change oil/service idiot light came on... had to bring it back and get the 5 hour service (free but a bit of a hassle)


congrats again you're gonna be real happy.


30 hours is nothing... i looked at some where the dealer used the thing as a demo but kept the meter unplugged so you never really knew how many hours it had on it...
 

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ok, finally pulled the trigger.

after talking to about 4 dealers, the going price was about $5700=5800. I got a dealer to give me somewhat of a deal if i got a new one instead of the used.

I decided to go that route,

Simplicity Prestige
50" Deck
20hp Kohler
Powersteering, mulcher, and 3 bin turbo bagger. Having second thoughts on the bagger now.

I hope its ready this Sat.

Thanks for all the help guys,

Mike
 

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Originally posted by viper8u2
Hello John,

Wow the tiller are expensive, I probably wont get one.

$1700
viper was that with the cat0 3 pt hitch or without it? i thought you needed that to use the tiller?
 
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