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Danger to what or to whom? Neither of my older Kubota's have any of that stuff (other than a PTO switch warning buzzer, not that they won't run with the PTO engaged and no one in the operators seat) because they will and I do when running a grain leg.

Far as I'm concerned, all those 'safety devices' are there to protect the manufacturer from liability and really do nothing positive for the operator so long as the operator deploys some common sense. If it was mine, I'd jumper it or defeat it and move on, especially if you have to foot the bill for a new one. I have none of those 'safety devices' on my 2 large frame Kubota's and candidly don't want any. I'm a responsible adult and can decide what it safe and what isn't. I can see the need for a ROPS (roll over protection device) and a seat belt, but the rest of it is superfluous to me.

All about protecting yourself from yourself and to a lesser extent, protecting the manufacturer from any liability claims caused by improper operation.
 

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I farm with mine, they aren't 'hobby tractors and thusly I don't want all the cost increasing junk anyway. I've seen my share of idiots in my 71 years. Idiots are everywhere, especially gullible ones.

I could not even comprehend of dealing with either of mine being sequestered at a dealer for weeks, waiting for some part like that. I need mine to be ready to go when I need them.

Once the warranty is kaput, if I were you, I'd be 'defeating' that stuff as necessary.

Sadly, we live in a society where the need to protect yourself from yourself has become the mantra of all mechanized equipment.
 

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My M9 Cabin tractor shipped complete in a 40 foot container with 2 more. Kubota removes the left side and right side wheels on each one to get them into a container, so they clear the top of the container. Dealer has a picture of them in a container. Smaller ones ship in angle iron frames that the dealer returns to Kubota. Wheels and tires are packed with the unit in the frame. Way back when I used to haul John Deere's out of Horicon, Wisconsin, JD shipped theirs the same way, in angle iron frames. You always dropped your trailer in the holding lot and JD employees would load it and secure them to the trailer. All you did was haul them to the respective dealer. Used to deliver a lot of them in the PA and NJ area.
 

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The main reason why I don't want any tractor that has electronic controls. Not that it's all bad but with supply chain economics screwed up, if your dealer (or any dealer for that matter) don't have one, getting one can turn into a nightmare and all that time, you are dead in the water.

Case in point, I have a cracked fuse block on one of my M9's and there aren't any, anywhere in the system so it's ordered but when it physically shows up is conjecture. I was able to 'jury rig' it but it needs replacement when it finally shows up, which could be next week or next month or a year from now. No one knows.

Why dealers don't have any tractors as well. My dealer is getting incomplete tractors delivered. Tractors without loaders or tractors missing parts that are on order but when they show up is a crap shoot. Like I said in another post, Kioti dealers have to have a signed purchase contract and a deposit before Kioti will build and ship a unit. That came from a Kioti dealer's parts manager that I happen to know personally. They have zero floor planned units in stock btw., and they sell a lo of them. Not a dealer mandate, a corporate mandate. If it's true or not, I have no idea, just something I was told during the course of a conversation.

Keep in mind that most new tractors are made offshore and have to come in containers and those containers have to be offloaded and the traffic jam at container ports causes huge delays.

I didn't cause the mess but I still have to deal with it, like it or not.

One thing I'm finding interesting is the lack of QC in the stuff that is getting delivered. I've 'fixed' a number of screw up's for my dealer in poorly fitted parts. Never did that before. Bad welds, bad alignment of assemblies and overall lack of attention to assemblies. Things that should not happen are popping up. Glad I can fix them but not something I really want to see (or repair).

The more electronics involved, the better chance for failure and I think we all know that none of those components are made domestically so, if a dealer don't have the 'module' and there aren't any to be had, you as the end use gets screwed. No one's fault other than supply chain economics and we as end users have no control over that. No point in whining about it to a dealer as they have no control over supply chain economics either. Everyone is in the same boat.
 
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