If I was the kid who got caught you would have to fight the method on how the speed was determined....he is a hero..
Stupid but amazing and not far fetched....you can buy unmodified machines that top out at 186...uncork them at you will see 200 mph for $10k....Would i try it? yes i would if i had the roads (wide open and long) plus the machine....
I have seen 170 mph per the speedo on my FZ1, which is probably in the 150 range and seen 190 per the speedo on my brother's R1 which is probably in the 170 maybe 180 range. Both of these were on closed circuits both of which are WAY to fast.
What kills me is to see a father, all proud of his son for graduating high school, purchase his son's first bike. A 180 mph race replica. The kids around here have parents who will buy them anything.
A neighbor up the street bought his 18 year old son a 929 and within a week he had both arms and a leg broke. Once recovered they bought a new R1 for this kid. His second bike which will do 0 to 100 in only a few seconds knowing this child has no idea what he is doing.
These are the same parents that will then sue because the manufacturer shouldn't have made it in the first place.
The article said the kid was clocked from an airplane. I think the pilot of the airplane incorrectly computed the kid's actual ground speed. If he didn't; the kid has one bad ass bike and probably one of the fastest street bikes in the world. Not many pro-racing bikes can go that fast and I think he would have hit the wall of wind resistance at around 185 - 190 tops. The best I could get out of my 1983 Honda V-65 magna was about 148 mph and I had to shift into 5th gear to get that speed as the aerodynamic drag would slow the bike back to 137 in OD. I have riden with guys that could just hit 185 mph on a Yamaha YZF 1000 R and that was a bad bike. Even the Kawaski ZX12 1200 Ninja's toped out around 180 to 185 with some tweeking. The reason I say this is that as you double your airspeed; aerodynamic drag is squared. HP requirements are phenomenal at those speeds. The fastest I have ever driven a machine was 428 kph (according to the AN/ASN-128 Doppler Radar Navigation set) or about 266 mph in Germany in a slick UH-60 Blackhawk when I was cleared from a flight level of 11,000 feet to 3500 ft. on a hand off for final clearance for the ILS into Stuttgart International Airport. Even then the aircraft had to be dived slightly to maintain a 1000 fpm decent rate and 100% torque pulled to get that speed and we had about a 45 knot tail wind. All 3,120 ponys were pullin'. We were able to maintain a steady indicated airspeed of about 187 knots. 193 was VNE at that altitude and temp. Didn't normally fly like that but the controller said he could fit us in if we maintained at least 150 knots airspeed or we could be diverted to hold. We were ready to go home. I just don't see an OEM or even a tweeked OEM motorcycle going that fast.
Chief, believe it or not, they will run that fast easily. When the Suzuki Hayabusa came out and the testing was done with slight tail winds, stock was running in the 195 to 197 mph range. The bike is so aerodynamic the testers could not get a radar read on the bike from the front. They had to get readings from the back.
While you are right, there is a phenomenal jump in wind resistance from 195 to 205 you can take one of these 150 hp bikes and with less than $1500 of intake and exhaust work be in the 175 hp range not to mention turbos or NOS which can yield 250 to 275 hp safely with no other work.
I quite riding motorcycles when I got back from Germany in 1992. Things sure have changed alot to say the least. No way I would ride a motorcycle now. Too many idiot drivers on the road yapping on their cell phones. :dazed:
I is realy amazing what these bikes can do, and for an experanced rider, they are realy VERY safe. Should anyone be on one without a LOT of skill and experance? No way. Best to learn the skils on a nice, easy to handle, slower bike. Something you can just ring the [email protected] off of, and not get TO far in over your head. Plus its more fun to ride a slow bike fast, then a fast bike slow.
Kinda the mantality of us in the US though. Bigger is better. Sone of the nisest sport bikes ever made, have been in the 400cc class, what never realy sold well, or at all here in the US. For the old timers you had the RD400's, and in the 90's you had the FZR400's, and many more.
I saw this on another site, the big point was about the speed being correct. The stopwatch has to be started and stopped by hand and there is always a chance of error. Either way if it was off by even say 20mph or even more...he was smoking!!!
He needs to be banned from driving period!!!! If he had hit someone it would have been over in a split second for both of them. If he hit something in the road he would have never even noticed what hapened untill he was standing at the pearly gates looking for St. Peter! :smoking: Just my nickles worth!turtle
I think I got ya beat Chief, except I wasn't driving. My fastest ride was in somethng made by a little company called General Dynamics, F-16D block 30. What a ride! Most fun I have had with my clothes on ever!!! Full afterburner combat takeoff. Which is just after you get the gear and flaps up you make a quick 90 deg turn go a little way and then another quick 90 deg turn. Then we had to do a couple of G awarness turns at about 5 g's. This means there are 5 times the force of gravity pushing on you. I think I left my shorts somehere back on the ramp!!! Great ride!! I would do it again in a split second! I hope before I retire to get a B-1 ride, I want to see how fast that thing will go down low!!! They say you can chase cattle out in west Texas. But that can't be confirmed or denied!!! Orientation rides are one of the perks of the job. Most other folks only get incentive rides. Orientation rides may include dropping bombs or air to air dogfighting. Incentive rides are mainly siteseeing type rides.
What an extremely reckless and insane thing to do!! Most tires are not rated for those kinds of speeds, a tire failure would be fatal. A bunny rabbit hopping in front of him, an oil patch on the road, a hunk of truck tire would have been all that was required to send him to the nit-wit room in the afterlife. My opinion (worth less than 2 cents) is that when these guys kill themselves, it improves the gene pool for the rest of us, but they always seem to take innocent folks along with them. Imagine a grandma with her 4 grandkids stopped properly at the intersection and she looks left to see a motorcycle coming from 900 feet away, makes the decision that she has space to go and enters the road. At 205 mph, he will cover that 900 feet in three seconds killing or injuring 5 people that were going for an ice cream. I like speed too, but on a track where the surface has been inspected for debris, where everyone else is traveling at approx. the same speed, where safety rules are enforced, where the participants have had some training/experience.
F-16's kick butt don't they? I had a couple of rides in the F16 B's and D's station wagon myself. It actually took 3 attempts for my first ride in a B model until we did not have to abort takeoff due to augmentor blowout......Engine mechs kept saying they found the problem and it was fixed, and it would do a FCF, and then I got my chance and it would either have a compressor stall or augmentor blowout. But I had a max takeoff and climb, but liked to have lost it when we went over the top. What was really weird was when the pilot asked me if I wanted to try and fly it and I said sure. He inverted that Falcon and said there you go, have a try........ and I just knew I was gonna fall out........really freaky feeling. Once up in the air and not able to focus on a stationary object you just don;t have any feeling or sensation of the speed your going.
Personally I preferred the F-4 . Lots of smoke and noise and afterbuyrner takoffs were super, especially on a good cool day when they cold really go all out. I had quite a lot of rides in the old Phantom. First one was when I was a Ssgt, and had to go cross country to fix one that was broke at Patrick AFB. Life support handed me a flight suit etc, that had Major insignia on it. Off we go, and we had to RON (unexpected). No one asked if I was a real Major, but those young airmen were flipping out when they seen a "Major" pulling panels and parts off the broke jet. They kept saying here Maj., let me take that panel off. They even put me up in the officer quarters, no questions asked..............I had a pretty good time. During christmas holidays lots of folks (WSO's) would be on leave, and a pilot being a typical pilot was gonna get all the stick time they could and there was always an empty back seat to ride in so I used to get up quite a bit.
Ah the the Double Ugly!! I have 1.4 hours in an F-4D when I was at Homestead. I got to do three touch and go's and one full stop. Not too many folks get to do touch and go's. I was flying with the Chief of the safety office. That was a pretty good time as well!
I am jealous of some of the old crew chiefs that got to fly quit a bit. Flying in a high performance jet is pretty much beyond words. Back in the day the Life Support guys used to have their own equipment and lockers, and if one of the pilots was flying the two seater and didn't have anyone schedule to go along they would offer up the back seat to us if we wanted to go. I missed out on that!!!!! You used to have to be Airman of the Quarter or win some other award to get a flight. There is quite a bit of training involved in a ride like this, but we teach all the classes so it is kind of a fomality for us to get to fly. Sorry I got off the subject at hand. It is a great ride though!!! I wish I had pictures but cameras weren't allowed. :cheers:
Here is a picture of our wing jet at Homestead. It is on display at the Air Force Academy. I have my picture sitting in it when I was just a wee AF lad. I will have to scan it someday.
Yes, these speeds are very doable with modern crotch rockets. The Hyabusa, while testing, was having troubles. Seems that when the bike reached 180 MPH, the force of the air was enough to trigger the front brake lever, causing the tail light to come on.
I have went faster in cars than on bikes. I had my buddies Ninja 600 on the freeway once. I was cruising about 70 MPH when I came up on a group of Harleys. I appreciate all types of bikes, so I gave them all a quick "wave". A couple of them started revving their engines, and before I thought, I just downshifted, and watched them get smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror. I only hit about 107, but it got there real quick, and the bike seemed very happy at that speed. That was fast enough for me. 200 is nuts, especially on a public highway.
On Dave Despains show, he called the guy an idiot. He said he was not impressed with 205. He showed a pic of someones bike on the Dale Jr. pit crew that will do 250 MPH in street trim, and said "now THATS impressive!". LOL
I now have a son and a will to live...I dont need another bike!
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