Garden Tractor Pulling Discussion

Discussion in 'Tractor Pulling' started by Tractor Nut, Sep 30, 2004.

  1. Tractor Nut

    Tractor Nut New Member

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  2. aguysmiley

    aguysmiley New Member

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    Jul 1, 2004
    Everything I've ever heard indicates that hydros are a bad choice for pulling. The pump just doesn't put out enough pressure to pull the serious weight.
     

  3. freddie

    freddie New Member

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    Apr 5, 2010
    i run allis b-10 and a simplicity landlord 2010. its not the hp to be concerned about. its were you put the weights and body movement on the tractor. we beat the cubs around here all the time.
     

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  4. Rick B

    Rick B Rick B

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    Jul 25, 2010
    I have a 1966 cub
     
  5. Rick B

    Rick B Rick B

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    Jul 25, 2010
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    This my 66 cub,Mama Tried in the 12 horse stock atlered class 950 pound.This night I pulled 244 and 6.Took first place.Running alky fuel.One of the county fair fulls we have done this year.
    Both my pullers,Mama Tried and Red Fever 3
     
  6. BigSteve63

    BigSteve63 New Member

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    Mar 17, 2011
    Hello All! Been lurking for a bit and decided to chime in on this one. My experience pulling garden tractors is about 25-30 years back, and I do remember that the early hydros were fairly easy targets. Our competition ranged from the Cubs to Wheelhorses, and Bolens models. Depending on the setup and weight class, they were all pretty tough to beat. We started with an Allis 110, then went to a B-210 Landlord, a 1968 model. After retiring it from pulling, my Mom mowed with it for another 20+ years. I still have it (pic attached) and have started the restore on it. So far, the engine has been rebuilt (interesting story in itself) and I had to install a new governor, due to the gear shaft breaking. Transmission is in good shape, but leaks just a bit. Mower deck and drive hardware have all been rebuilt with new parts or fabbed replacements. Next step is new paint and decals. The yellow on it is not the original, we had a body guy for a neighbor (also a puller) who shot it for free. The "WHIP" decal is for both my Dad and my nickname. Not sure whether to go back original or stay with the bright yellow, since that is how I'll always remember it.

    But, back on original topic - I think I would search Craiglist or Ebay to see if I couldn't land one of the older, non-hydrostat tractors and either rebuild or put a new engine on it. Either way, it sure is a lot of fun.
     

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  7. Texas TRex

    Texas TRex New Member

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    Aug 4, 2010
    ^^^ nice little Allis, there !
     
  8. BigSteve63

    BigSteve63 New Member

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    Mar 17, 2011
    Thanks! Had it for a very long time...
     
  9. jhngardner367

    jhngardner367 Moderator Staff Member

    Apr 4, 2011
    pullers

    DON'T use the hydro! They're designed to bypass oil if the pressure/torque is too high,and they just shut down!A lot of the pullers I've seen,here,in Michigan,are using the dual-ratio sears gt18 trans.They must be strong enough, because one of them was running in the Unlimited class,and was powered by a 105hp motorcycle engine!One of the guys told me that they like the dual-ratio,because they can change ranges,if one doesn't pull as well on a certain track.It's worth a try,anyway!
     
  10. 70sRopers

    70sRopers New Member

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    May 16, 2011
    Duel Range trans are tough

    Hey guys. Been pulling Sears Suburbans and Ropers for a while, and been finishing in the top 5 out of 26 or so tractors. I'm the only one running them. Everyone else has Cubs and Wheel Horse. Run 16HP twin Onans and 20HP twin Onans on them, and they do very well. I run it in Super Stock Class against 25HP twin Kohlers on Cubs and keep up farily well. I'll post some pics soon.
    70sRopers
     
  11. HickoryNut

    HickoryNut Grindin Away n Goin Blind

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    Mar 8, 2011
    Now I don't have to say it :grapevine

    And I have to say this gets the wheels a turnin. This might be a lotta fun. AND cheaper than a NASCAR!
     
  12. cubzilla

    cubzilla New Member

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    Sep 21, 2011
    posi traction

    I was wondering if anyone knew how to make a cub cadet posi traction. I have a 129 and its only one wheel and I want it to be posi. I dont know if you can weld the rear ends or what. Just please answer me because i have a pull next week end and i want it posi by then.
     
  13. nev

    nev New Member

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    May 7, 2011
    My son has been running a 1969 ss12 sears that used as much oil as gas and still placed often. With proper weight placement you go far with any 70s or earlier tractor. cast iron engines are more stable under the stress. A light tractor lets you distribute weight where necessary. we have a video on you tube ss12 pulls forklift its a 6 ton + machine. we also have a cadet 111 lawn tractor thats doing well ie full pulls and some first and second place standings against wheelhorse johndeere and craftsmans. do your research experiment O and dont go hydro there good gaming tractors not pullers. the pumps arent made to handle it. the ss12 weight was 610 lbs as I recall we had it entered in a 2500lb class we only could get 2300 lbs of weight on it and were only 1 inch behind the jd tractor with a rebuilt 14 hp kohler

     
  14. Texas TRex

    Texas TRex New Member

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    Aug 4, 2010
    You are correct in your assumption of drivetrain and Cub Cadet tractors. The clutch setup seems to be a little (or a lot) more favorable for pulling, in the Cubs. The Sears line of early Suburbans and Super Suburbans have a very heavy frame, and make great pullers in the stock classes, in my opinion. These tractors use a belt drive, though....which makes it tricky to find the right combination of pulley/spring tension/lever/belt and gear ratio. If you can find that combination, which is a small window, then they pull pretty good. In our club, the top three tractors (in Youth stock) are a John Deere, a Cub Cadet, and a Super Suburban.
    Me, if I wasnt hard headed and already running the Sears....I'd lean toward the Cub. After that, if I had a good deal on a Deere, as bad as I hate to say it, I'd probably go green.
     
  15. mauve

    mauve New Member

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Exotic plant nursery

    How do I organize value engineering function in a tractor manufacturing firm?
     
  16. mbotticelli

    mbotticelli New Member

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    Nov 15, 2011
    Nothin' runs like a Deere! Dude... get a diesel
     
  17. pullerdad

    pullerdad New Member

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    Sep 26, 2011
    Just about any old tractor (pre-1975) can be built to pull. We have three that we ran last year, our first year of pulling, that we had a lot of fun with. A cub 125 that my son runs, an 857 Wheelhorse, and a Simplicity/Allis Chalmers that is painted to look like Moline. The Cub is a hydro and has won more money than the other two combined. In fact in the last pull of the year that little 12hp Kohler out pulled the adult 850 turf tire class by 20ft. Balancing the tractor and getting the power to the ground seems to be the trick.
     

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  18. Thomas

    Thomas Supporting Member

    Nov 1, 2006
    Thats having to much fun right there.:cool:
     
  19. donnyboybradley

    donnyboybradley New Member

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    Jan 18, 2012
    Welding Differential

    I have a international 1282 as seen in my profile picture, i was wondering if it would be a good idea to weld my differential so i have all-time possie traction? Would this be smart for pulling?
     
  20. mbotticelli

    mbotticelli New Member

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    Nov 15, 2011
    Tractor Pullll!