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Masseys
Maybe the folks here are anti-massey! I do most of my farm work with a massey and have been looking at buying another, maybe a 3545. Can't afford much anything newer then a 10 to 15 yr old tractor of that size (135hp).
Maybe some more massey people will come out of the closet and join in.
Jay
Maybe the folks here are anti-massey! I do most of my farm work with a massey and have been looking at buying another, maybe a 3545. Can't afford much anything newer then a 10 to 15 yr old tractor of that size (135hp).
Maybe some more massey people will come out of the closet and join in.
Jay
Brian, I'm a Farmall guy myself, but I also am a used/aftermarket parts dealer, and I keep refering all of our Massey customers here. This is a great site for people to get info and form a comunity of good friends with similar interests. You can always start some conversations on the more generic sections of the site.
Hang in there as the movie says " if you build it, they will come".
Hang in there as the movie says " if you build it, they will come".
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Well, I am a Massy fan, but don't own one. I have an 8N now, and that's my first "real" tractor, but my next? It will me a MF 135, or 165. Cant beat these workhourses. Problem is the prices are still high on them. People that have them still use them, ans IF they do sell, they go for big money.
Those Perkins diesels are hard to beat, and when you do finally wear them out they cost about half as much to rebuild as other makes. ( at least in our catalogue) We got a rebuild kit for a guy for a 203 engine ( MF165) for right around $600 CDN, that include pistons, sleeves, rings, gaskets, bearings, the whole thing. Blew me away, about half of what they were for most brands.
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wish mine was cheaper to work on!!!
My massey sure isn't cheaper to work on! Granted, it is a 105hp farm tractor. It's a 2675 with a perkins 354.4 inline 6. I replaced the water pump and and the injector tips this spring. Also had the head redone since I had to take it off to get a couple of the injectors out. With the water pump, injector tips and gaskets, it cost right at $2300 for parts and labor. Having the head done was another $210. The water pump from Agco was @$360 but found one at Abilene Machine for about $260 and the tips were $35 each for 6 of them.
I just had to replace the seal in the hydraulic steering cylinder. Just the seals alone from Agco cost right at $140. And folks wonder why farmers are going broke all the time!
Jay
My massey sure isn't cheaper to work on! Granted, it is a 105hp farm tractor. It's a 2675 with a perkins 354.4 inline 6. I replaced the water pump and and the injector tips this spring. Also had the head redone since I had to take it off to get a couple of the injectors out. With the water pump, injector tips and gaskets, it cost right at $2300 for parts and labor. Having the head done was another $210. The water pump from Agco was @$360 but found one at Abilene Machine for about $260 and the tips were $35 each for 6 of them.
I just had to replace the seal in the hydraulic steering cylinder. Just the seals alone from Agco cost right at $140. And folks wonder why farmers are going broke all the time!
Jay
Jay, I understand where your coming from, I'm a beef farmer, Canadian beef farmer, need I say more?
We are also an aftermarket parts dealer so maybe thats the difference, I'd heard from others that MF parts weren't cheap. Thing is I wonder why the Perkins parts were cheaper than say IH, both made by the same people. (in this case)
We are also an aftermarket parts dealer so maybe thats the difference, I'd heard from others that MF parts weren't cheap. Thing is I wonder why the Perkins parts were cheaper than say IH, both made by the same people.
(in this case)
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When the farmer won the $1,000,000 Lottery, he was aked what he was going to do? He replied, "I'll keep farming for as long as the money lasts..." There is some sadness in that joke. In north New Jersey, I grew up between 3 dairy farms. It's all condos and golf courses now. The horse farm I worked summers at is now covered with multi-million dollar mini-estates. Little 5 and 10 acre lots with huge (10,000-14,000 sq. foot) mansions. The only tractors I see in that area anymore are lawn mowers. I now live in PA and the transformation of land is happening there too. All of you that still farm, bless you all. I don't own a Massey, but wouldn't be ashamed of it if I did. Fine machines. Have a good day and post some more pictures.
I hear stories of the scenery changing and the farms closing down. Down here in Louisiana alot of the dairy farms and cattle ranches have closed and their operations have been abandoned.
There are a few areas where some of them are becoming transformed into "communities" but we simply don't have the influx of $$$ to add 15,000sq foot mansions to the 5-10 acre lots. They are more like $150-300K homes and they all seem pretty nice. I am still eager to purchase a nice 40-60+ acre lot to have and take care of. I am still young enough to be able to enjoy the land and take care of it. (plus I have 2 young kids coming up to teach) --- I am not a farmer by any means but I do have great respect for them. My 10 acre spread is enough to maintain for now, but one day a little more --- including space for my own RC grass field airport --- will be really nice.
They sure aren't making them anymore. Cannot wait for the day where all of our food is imported from China too and they decide to poison us all --- as our biologically engineering crops here will give us all brain cancer or something ------ One day it will get back to the organic way of doing things... What I feel like is the purest form of living IMHO.
Well, enough comments...
Andy
There are a few areas where some of them are becoming transformed into "communities" but we simply don't have the influx of $$$ to add 15,000sq foot mansions to the 5-10 acre lots. They are more like $150-300K homes and they all seem pretty nice. I am still eager to purchase a nice 40-60+ acre lot to have and take care of. I am still young enough to be able to enjoy the land and take care of it. (plus I have 2 young kids coming up to teach) --- I am not a farmer by any means but I do have great respect for them. My 10 acre spread is enough to maintain for now, but one day a little more --- including space for my own RC grass field airport
--- will be really nice.They sure aren't making them anymore. Cannot wait for the day where all of our food is imported from China too and they decide to poison us all --- as our biologically engineering crops here will give us all brain cancer or something ------ One day it will get back to the organic way of doing things... What I feel like is the purest form of living IMHO.
Well, enough comments...
Andy
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Disappearing land
It is happening here around Fort Wayne also, the city is expanding to the north and to the west faster than you can blink. I grew up on the west side of Fort Wayne outside the city limits which is now inside the city limits by about 5 mile thats been in the last 30 years. Alot of good farm land has been lost. I guess I am am a transplanted city boy into a rural community of about 6000 east of Fort Wayne.Can't wait to get the new place built on my 5 acres 2 mile from town. I guess someday it will be one large city from coast to coast, what do you suppose they will call it?:truth:
It is happening here around Fort Wayne also, the city is expanding to the north and to the west faster than you can blink. I grew up on the west side of Fort Wayne outside the city limits which is now inside the city limits by about 5 mile thats been in the last 30 years. Alot of good farm land has been lost. I guess I am am a transplanted city boy into a rural community of about 6000 east of Fort Wayne.Can't wait to get the new place built on my 5 acres 2 mile from town. I guess someday it will be one large city from coast to coast, what do you suppose they will call it?:truth:
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"What do you suppose they will call it?" Probably Nikeville or Pepsiburg or maybe Toyotatown. ^%#$&@ corporations seem to control every part of our lives and want more...
Re: Masseys
I am a massey man. Helped my neighbor for years and that is all he had. He had two 135's, a 175, a 255, a 285, an 1150, an 1155 and a 2805 and let me tell you the 2805 was one awesome machine. It thumped the ground hard. My neighbor always told me that there is only one thing better than a Massey Ferguson and that was two of them. (HA!)
Now I have my own Massey. It is a 240 and I love it.
I am a massey man. Helped my neighbor for years and that is all he had. He had two 135's, a 175, a 255, a 285, an 1150, an 1155 and a 2805 and let me tell you the 2805 was one awesome machine. It thumped the ground hard. My neighbor always told me that there is only one thing better than a Massey Ferguson and that was two of them. (HA!)
Now I have my own Massey. It is a 240 and I love it.
In Canada the dairy farmers shot themselves in the foot with the quota system. Quota is now worth as much as the farm and equipment it takes to fill the quota, a farm loan is about half quota!!
The last price I heard is about $26000 per KG which is about as much as one good cow will produce per day. So for $26000 you can milk 1 cow. A lot of the farmers are selling out because the interest on the money is more than the income they would get from being tied to a cow's a$$ twice a day, 365/year.
The last price I heard is about $26000 per KG which is about as much as one good cow will produce per day. So for $26000 you can milk 1 cow. A lot of the farmers are selling out because the interest on the money is more than the income they would get from being tied to a cow's a$$ twice a day, 365/year.
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Well, I do know that the Perkins motors are use in a LOT of aplcations. They must make TONS of them. Boats use them, tractors use them, stationary equmiment uses them. Bet there is just so many out there, that the prices can be low.Originally posted by parts man
. Thing is I wonder why the Perkins parts were cheaper than say IH, both made by the same people.
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I am with you on that. Not that I am one of those guys that has to have EVERYTHING organic. But I like to kind of keep my little pice of the world that way. I don't use cem ferts, and use hurbicides oly where REALY needed, and in small bits.[I have a TON of poison ivy, nothing else will kill that] OK, so sometimes my wife calls me a tree hugger, oh well, what can I say.[realy she says "He is not a tree hugger, but he is REAL close"] I have a great little daughter, and don;t want to put her at risk.Originally posted by admin
- One day it will get back to the organic way of doing things... What I feel like is the purest form of living IMHO.
Well, enough comments...
Andy
Just to show how bad it is these days.We are working with a landscaper. He is grading our yard, and seeding grass. He wanted me to spry roundup on all the grass and weeds that were there to kill them. I had to argue with him about it. I am not sprying two acres of Roundup! I understand his point. He does not want me to come to him next year saying my yard is full of weeds. But I told him, I will take that chance. I am not using that much round up. Plus I am on a well, and part of the lawn is within 10 feet of it.
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