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Old 09-08-2008, 10:54 PM   #1
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Lift Problems with my Allis Chalmers 160

Guys if you could help me out here , that would be nice. I have a 1973 AC 160 that the lift works good in the up position, but it wont go down normal. It goes down so slow i cant even work with the tractor. Im not that good with what all the parts are called but i have a manual and am willing to learn how to work on it. Any help would be appreciatied.


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Old 09-09-2008, 07:28 AM   #2
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I'm not sure where it is on your tractor but most will have a lift adjustment that allows you to change the speed it drops based on how much weight is on the lift. If you had a very heavy implement on the lift you could adjust it so it wouldn't drop too quickly and you have more time to adjust the depth of the cut. Mine looks like a thumb screw that is under the seat but I'm not sure where your's is on your tractor. There should be some mention of it in the owners manual. Have you checked with a dealer?

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Old 09-09-2008, 09:01 PM   #3
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Well i looked into that and thats not it, however i think now the HYD pump is shot, because it wont lift anymore. Now im hearing from others that i cant get one, because its so old. I have no clue where to start looking either.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:38 PM   #4
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I did a simple google search and this is what I came up with. Im not endorsing any of them just listing the top 3 for ya. In my google search I used the words "Allis Chalmers 160 Parts"

http://www.ssbtractor.com/tractors.cgi?m=allis

http://www.mainetractors.com/allis%2...%20tractor.htm

http://www.tractorshed.com/contents/ts1.htm
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:41 PM   #5
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Here it is

Top One

Product ID: ACTPOALHP2

Price: $441.48

http://www.ssbtractor.com/Allis-Chal...ulic-pump.html
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:45 PM   #6
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Try checking around at some tractor dealers and ask if they can recommend a local hydraulics shop that might be able to rebuilt the hyd. pump.

Here is a hydraulic pump for a Allis 160 but you better have a strong drink and sit down for the price. $441.48

http://secure.ssbtractor.com/cgi-bin...r+Tractor+Part

These guys have it for $366.30

http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/store/m...System&r=mcats

These guys had them advertised for $185

http://www.mainetractors.com/allis%2...%20tractor.htm

Try a Google search for Allis Chalmers 160 and see what comes up.
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:08 AM   #7
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WOW Guys/ I do thank you for your help. That is mighty nice of you guys to take time out, to do that. Thanks again.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:26 AM   #8
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Before spend the money to buy a pump or have this one rebuilt, I would suggest putting a manual pressure gauge on your tractor's hydraulic system to verify the pump is not producing any pressure. Do you have the shop manual for this tractor? If not, I recommend spending the bucks to buy one as this could be a valuable asset in the future as well and help direct you with troubleshooting the hydraulics.
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Morgan, I was zooming through the replies and totally missed your replies. Sorry about that. Nothing like duplicating effort ehh? cruisin
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Before spend the money to buy a pump or have this one rebuilt, I would suggest putting a manual pressure gauge on your tractor's hydraulic system to verify the pump is not producing any pressure. Do you have the shop manual for this tractor? If not, I recommend spending the bucks to buy one as this could be a valuable asset in the future as well and help direct you with troubleshooting the hydraulics.
Yes i do have a manual, and i will give that a try. Good idea. Thanks
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:47 PM   #11
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Well the pump is shot. i will keep ya up to date on when i put it on and go through the lift problem. Thanks guys. You have been a big help. and i might just call on ya again lol. I sure hope i can get her going soon. I miss my tractor all ready
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:27 PM   #12
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Morgan, I was zooming through the replies and totally missed your replies. Sorry about that. Nothing like duplicating effort ehh? cruisin
The idea is to help and we were only a few minutes off. Better to much help than not enough or no help. Its all good Randy!!!
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The idea is to help and we were only a few minutes off. Better to much help than not enough or no help. Its all good Randy!!!
I Agree
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:18 AM   #14
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I guess great minds think alike.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:37 PM   #15
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Well my dad has a hint that someone can rebuild it that one of his friends know. So when i get that info i will relay it back. I dont think it can because of the way its built, but i gues it wont cost me nothing to look into it. I did call one of the parts houses about the pump you guys found for me and thats the one. Thanks again. I will keep ya in the loop when i finf out something.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:52 PM   #16
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Well guys after putting my dad onto the info you guys gave me, we waited and waited on a pump that was back ordered and with no luck, so he found a used on real cheap for that pump. So i got it the other day and put it on today and i cant get it to pump!!! Ok.... So i think its maybe a bad pump or its got air in it. How do you prime a pump and do you have to? Thanks for any help.
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:55 PM   #17
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Bump!!
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:30 PM   #18
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Ive never had to prime one, it usually picks it up after about a minute of running. It did take that long for mine to pick up but once it started working it worked fine. Are you guys 100% sure that it was a good pump.
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What kinda oil are you putting into it. Im asking just to make sure you used the right stuff.
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Old 03-20-2009, 07:07 AM   #20
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Well ya know, i really dont know what kind of oil or brand, but i do know its hyd fluid. The pump, i do not know for sure if its good or not.


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