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Old 03-04-2010, 02:22 PM   #1
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Exhust Manifold for D17

What all will fit? I'm sure a WD 45 will fit but wondered about a WC or WD even.

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Old 03-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #2
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First search hit answered the question.

Allis Chalmers A/C Manifold WC, WD, WD45, D17 Thru III, 170 Part # 4873 $149.00

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Old 03-04-2010, 04:01 PM   #3
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Glad to hear you found the answer so quickly Al.

Just curious though - are you replacing one? I need to do this on my old Case and was wondering how you were going to get the rusty bolts out of the engine.

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Yes I am going to be replaceing it. I have to take the head off as a spark plug broke off in the head only leaving the threads. I broke a pipe easy out off in that so the head needs to come off so I can remove the easy out from the back side.
Then I'll build a putty dam around the manifold bolts and let them soak in Coke for a few days.
They should come out real easy after that.

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Old 03-07-2010, 07:37 PM   #5
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I have not tried this method but read it in Green Magazine.

Heat stud to red hot, then use a candle and let the wax wick in to the threads. You are then supposed to be able to thread the stud out.
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Hmmm
Coke? Take lots of pics cause I gotta see this one.
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What will the pictures show? You can do the expermint yourself. Get a old rusty bolt with a nut stuck on it, put in a can/bottle/dish of coke for a couple of day. You should be able to remove the nut with out much problem. shoot just throw a hunk of beef in a bowl with some coke in it. Makes it real tender, what doesn't get eaten away.

Several years ago I needed to remove a hub off a Massey axel. I heated that thing up with the torch beat on it with a sledge and it still refused to move. I made a press with a 20 ton jack and some plate steel, jacked till it would not jack any longer then heated it and beat on it with a sledge still didn't come. Called my dad and told him the tractor wouldn't be ready when I had told him it would be. He told me the coke trick then. I went out there the next day with a can of coke built a putty dam, poured the coke on let it soak 3 days. On the third day I went out grabed the hub and slid it off the axel.

A friend used it to free up a froze up transmaission on one of his tractors. I think it took him a couple of 24 packs to fill it.

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I have not tried this method but read it in Green Magazine.

Heat stud to red hot, then use a candle and let the wax wick in to the threads. You are then supposed to be able to thread the stud out.
Careful with the heat, you will change the metals rating, you will make it very brittle if not done correctly. I was a machinist for 15yrs and the heat treating process, cooling process to get a metal to a certain point takes precission, you can make a metal to soft or to brittle very easily. Just a word of caution. I have seen it time and time again and its not pretty.
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Sounds like a great science experiment. "What are all the possible uses of Coke in your workshop". Let your imagination run wild. I have also heard that automatic transmission fluid was a good deruster. A friend had a bucket of old ATF by the door of his shop and he would drop rusty tools in there and let them soak. He claimed it removed all the rust though I've never tried it myself.

Al I thought about your buddy freeing up a transmission with lots of Coke and was wondering what he did to get the sugar and water out of the tranny after it freed up. Wouldn't that cause other issues down the road? I could see it working on parts you were trying to take apart since you could clean everything up afterwards.
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I've only used coke to free up stuck hubs and some rusty old bolts I had time to let soak. Once in a while I'll find a old rusty tool in a tractor tool box I buy and I'll throw it in a bucket of coke.
My mom soaked chuck roast about 12 hours to tenderize it.

Mind you this was before the current oil prices. Jim ater getting the tranny free with the coke drained it out. Re filled the tranny with Kerosine ran it around the farmstead a bit drained it and refilled the tranny with the proper oil. He then mixed the kerosine with a bunch of used oil and coated farm equipment with it. Stuff like plow mold boards.
He also soaked dozer track in pans of coke before pressing out worn track pins.

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