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Old 03-20-2017, 11:00 AM   #41
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First off, it's doubtful there's a 30% difference between a Kubota and an off brand like LS that offer the same on both tractors.
See the above thread. You are right Townline, it isn't 30%. it is more than that.


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Old 03-22-2017, 09:29 PM   #42
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My LS XR4155C has 47.3 pto hp. With 47.3 pto I am well with range to pull some 12 ft batwing shredders. That's the main reason I decided to upgrade. That and I wanted AC, air-ride seat and a radio. Rhino and Woods both make 12 ft batwings that only require 35 pto to run. They target compact tractors with between 35-50 pto. I am liking the Rhino TS12 Stealth. Another thread for another day.



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Old 03-22-2017, 10:33 PM   #43
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Just for further info. The Kubota I looked at that was the closest to my LS XR4155C was the Grand L6060. I could see no real differences but I'll tell you the pros and cons of each.

Kubota Pros:
*Just looks sexy. There is a cool factor with a nice Kubota.
*Not a pro in my mind but the Kubota was a hydrostatic transmission.(hst idle high and use more fuel and sacrifice PTO hp).
*Kubota has 5 more engine hp and 5 more pto hp.
*Kubota backhoe has a thumb option.
*More FEL lifting height by about 14 inches.

Kubota cons.
*Less warrantee.
*500 or 600lb less lifting capacity
*No option for shuttle shift.
*Only 12 speeds
*Radio was an add on option.
*Way more expensive. $62,000 compared to $38,000.

LS Pros.
*5 year warrantee
*16 speeds
*Radio included
*Way less purchase price. $24,000 less

LS cons:
*Less company infrastructure so you wait longer for parts that aren't dealer stocked
*5 less hp
*No thumb option for backhoe (I have a welder so I'm good).
*Less FEL lifting height (I prefer more lift capacity for the type of work I do) If I were double stacking hey bails I would prefer the height but I don't do that so it's a non issue.

Same Pros between both brands:
*Both have metal hoods. (Deere and Massey as well as others have gone to plastic.
*Interior cabs are so similar. The location of the LS AC vents are in the ceiling which is easier to service than Kubota's which were in the dash.
*Both have 2 remotes.
*Both have locking rear differentials (nice if you get stuck)
*Both have 4 wheel drive
*Both have the same hydraulic flow rate/gal per minute
*Bothe have two hydraulic pumps independent of each other (One for steering and one for implements)
*Both have bucket levelers.
*Both weigh about the same.
*Both have draft control.
*Both have telescoping 3pt lift arms
*Both have Bucket that is quick attach skid steer type
*Both have adjustable air-ride seats
*Both have front and back LED Flood lights
*Both have tilt steering
*Both have cup holders
*Both have 12v power jacks to charge things like cell phones
*Both have AC/heat

A little about warrantees. Deere and Kubota offer more warrantee hours and less warrantee years. LS offers less warrantee hours and more warrantee years. So you have to know how many hours you will be using your tractor and plan to own it. Are you like me and only put around 200 hrs a year? If that's the case you may be better off with the LS 5 year warrantee. Are you a full time farmer and rack up 1000 or more hrs a year? If that's the case you may be better served with a Kubota or Deere. Are you the person that buys a new tractor every few years? You could argue resale value with the Kubota as being better but remember, with the LS you are already 25K ahead.

There are certainly pros and cons to each. All things aside, if they were both priced the same or if Kubota was maybe $3,000 more than the LS I would have gone with Kubota just to say "I have a Kubota". But I'm not a wealthy guy and the fact is Kubota, Deere, Massey. They are a lot more than just 3k more. For the features, price, warrantee (that best fits the way I will use the tractor) I have not found a better brand. And I will say that my tractor looks absolutely beautiful. She cleans up nice and I get stairs when I'm filling her up at the gas station. Most see it and think that it is a New Holland or that Ford came back. I wish Ford would.

Also, dare I utter the name and contaminate this forum, Mahindra advertises a 6 year warrantee. That only applies to home use. If you use a Mahindra for farming or commercial use (the reason you would buy one), you void the 6 year warrantee and get a 90 day warrantee. 90 days!!! They must not have a lot of faith in their product.

So do be aware of some off the off brand warrantees and read the fine print.

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Old 03-22-2017, 11:12 PM   #44
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Good looking tractor, I looked at the LS's, prior to buying my Branson 8050, I was looking at the P series with the power shift. The only concerns that I had at the time where the clearance for tire chains and the local dealer at that time was almost worthless, he's now out of the tractor business, the next closest dealer was 80 miles away. It's far enough to my Branson dealer it's 20 miles, If I wanted to spend lots of money JD is only 2 miles, New Holland is 9 miles and Case IH Kabota is 15 miles away.
Enjoy your tractor the cab and AC is nice.
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Branson 8050! Now that's a tractor. I would have loved to get one that size however I only have an F250, 7.3 LTR, and a 24 ft gooseneck trailer. By the time I attach a batwing shredder I'm too long and over weight. I do plan on getting a bigger one down the road. Maybe when this one is paid off in 7 years. Right now mine is just small enough that I can still haul it around easily. Don't get me wrong. It's got some size to it and weighs in around 8K with the backhoe. How much do those Branson's run price wise if you don't mind me asking? That 8050 is a beast. I read 5,000 pounds lifting capacity. Holy crap!!!
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I ended up working around $45,000 before my trade, then they had to reverse the wheels to get a wider stance and room inside for my chains. My driveway work in the winter absolutely requires chains, and when I take it over to my brothers farm in the winter it's to get around where the chains are needed from snow and ice. I don't trailer mine so the weight wasn't an issue and then I've added 1200 pounds of rear wheel weights to her. Sowe are right around 10,000#'s as she sits with no implements attached.
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