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Ingersoll444 · 01-15-2005, 05:34 AM

Does anyone know of any good matches for the 8N's red, and gray, that can be gotton in local hardwere stores? Not looking for perfict match, just something close.

I picked up a can of a brand called XORust, in "Tractor Red" and it looks pretty close, but waht about the gray, and anyone found any other close match?

psrumors · 01-15-2005, 06:51 AM

Take a look here. N Paint

Hopefully that will help.

Ken N Tx · 01-15-2005, 09:51 AM

Paul, i used Rustolium Apple Red and Battle Ship Gray..

I first brushed on the red as it puts on a heavier coat than a spray..When the paint became tacky, i sprayed over the brush marks with Apple Red spray..

Ken N Tx · 01-15-2005, 09:56 AM

End result that i am happy with..

DrBailey · 01-15-2005, 10:38 AM

Paul , I went by the same paint chips and numbers that psrumors
posted for you , then I went to a ppg store and they matched the colors .
Our Race bros farm store and TSC have the colors in rattle can .
There Rattle can paint colors has like its own primar in it , It holds up good .

DrBailey · 01-15-2005, 11:02 AM

Hey Ken ,, Your N looks great , I was wondering , is it a 9 or a 2N
Is your N a working tractor or Show . Looks like it will do both .
I had a 2N , I was gonna redo it , but after doing mine and my brothers N I give it up on e-bay. I get to many iron`s in the fire!!

DrBailey · 01-15-2005, 11:16 AM

Sorry , I got the N`s mixed up , the last post is the 9 N , here a pic of the 2 N , I sold it last year on e-bay also.
But ,, I kept the Blade.

Ken N Tx · 01-16-2005, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrBailey
Hey Ken ,, Your N looks great , I was wondering , is it a 9 or a 2N
Is your N a working tractor or Show . Looks like it will do both .
I had a 2N , I was gonna redo it , but after doing mine and my brothers N I give it up on e-bay. I get to many iron`s in the fire!!

Its a working 2N with an 8N hood and dog legs..

Ingersoll444 · 01-16-2005, 05:11 AM

MAN you guys have some NICEEEE looking tractors there. Good job I have to say.

So heres one for you all. How did you go about cleaning,prepping, and painting your tractors? I may have to do a motor rebuild soon on mine, and sence most of the tin will be off anyway, may be a good time to just do it. Any tips? and thing to make sure I do/don't do? My tin is junk, but if I do rebuild the motor, might as well get the red chassy looking good.

DrBailey · 01-16-2005, 11:00 AM

Thanks Paul ,
after a full tear down , I soaked all the red with Varsoll , ( a flud used in a parts cleaner tank ), I did that process two times, along with a pressure washer.
next step , I used aircraft paint stripper over everything , I pressure washed that off . Then just a lot of scrapping and sanding.
Picture with stripper on it .

Tau44 · 01-21-2005, 04:19 PM

Their are some great looking tractors. I have a 8N. I need to paint mine. I don't enjoy the painting factor. But it has to be done. I just can't get motivated to finish the paint job I started.

Thanks,

Les

mark777 · 01-21-2005, 05:22 PM

OK you guys...I'm looking at concourse restoration material here. And I have to admit you dont see this kind of attention to detail anymore. Most pay to have it done.

What I am about to say may seem like bragging...but the truth is I'm just old. I have been in the refinishing, custom painting and restoration business for 35 years. I have used it all, from Acme to Sikkens and everything in between - PPG, Dupont etc.

Perhaps my claim to fame was winning a first and second at the Oakland Roadster Show (2 different years) and Best Off Road car (Chenowith) and best modified stock (59 Corvette) at the Montgomery AL Coliseum. These were customers cars...Later I was an elected official (by invitation no $$) to judge fit, finish and color schemes.

After selling my fourth shop and giving up the trade, I immediately built my new shop on private property and a new house (DW mobile) right next to it. Now I restore Yanmar tractors. I still paint motorcycles, occasionally a few cars but really enjoy the tractor restoration projects the most.

Having said all this...blah blah blah...

Ken N tx, absolutely, hands down, one of the best looking restorations I have seen in the last 5 years, excellent work.

Dr Bailey...Dr of paint I presume. From the pictures, it's a toss up on who's is better and I would hate to judge. I have been back and forth looking at the pictures you posted and they are both very impressive.

Regards, Mark
P.S. Remember, I am old...not bragging.

Durwood · 01-21-2005, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mark777
OK you guys...I'm looking at concourse restoration material here. And I have to admit you dont see this kind of attention to detail anymore. Most pay to have it done.

What I am about to say may seem like bragging...but the truth is I'm just old. I have been in the refinishing, custom painting and restoration business for 35 years. I have used it all, from Acme to Sikkens and everything in between - PPG, Dupont etc.

Perhaps my claim to fame was winning a first and second at the Oakland Roadster Show (2 different years) and Best Off Road car (Chenowith) and best modified stock (59 Corvette) at the Montgomery AL Coliseum. These were customers cars...Later I was an elected official (by invitation no $$) to judge fit, finish and color schemes.

After selling my fourth shop and giving up the trade, I immediately built my new shop on private property and a new house (DW mobile) right next to it. Now I restore Yanmar tractors. I still paint motorcycles, occasionally a few cars but really enjoy the tractor restoration projects the most.

Having said all this...blah blah blah...

Ken N tx, absolutely, hands down, one of the best looking restorations I have seen in the last 5 years, excellent work.

Dr Bailey...Dr of paint I presume. From the pictures, it's a toss up on who's is better and I would hate to judge. I have been back and forth looking at the pictures you posted and they are both very impressive.

Regards, Mark
P.S. Remember, I am old...not bragging
.

Not to sound stupid Mark...but what is a chenowith? Is that a vehicle or a place? And my only claim to fame is winning an egg toss when i was younger. Pretty much all i do now is breathe enough to keep a plant or flower alive.

DrBailey · 01-21-2005, 06:19 PM

Mark 777, Thank you very much for the compliment, and I agree with you about Kens N , He`s a tractor painting Truck driver extraordinar !!! Being a old man is not all bad , I`m one of them to , also in the body busseness since teenager. Lots of customs and show`s . and still going . Its been a fun and Great life . Thanks again , I could type more , but the Banker wants me to buy Dinner .

mark777 · 01-21-2005, 06:49 PM

Durwood,

I will attempt to post a picture of a Chenoweth. It is a company that successfully expeirmented in off road chasis and sand drags, using the owners engines and drive axle assemblies.

The one I did for the owner was a single seat, 912 Porsche powered with 5 speed transaxle.

Ingersoll 444,

I have found that the X O Rust products are pretty good, but they contain insufficient dryers and stay sticky a very long time. I believe they are manufactured for True Value Hardware...their own company.

The absolute best and probably most inexpensive paint currently on the market is BPS paint and hardener, off the shelf from TSC. I have more money invested in paint guns and compressors then I care to confess....but the minimum compressor and a cheap Lowes or Home Depot paint gun achieve the same excellent results.

Regards, Mark

Durwood · 01-21-2005, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mark777
Durwood,

I will attempt to post a picture of a Chenoweth. It is a company that successfully expeirmented in off road chasis and sand drags, using the owners engines and drive axle assemblies.

The one I did for the owner was a single seat, 912 Porsche powered with 5 speed transaxle.

Mark, that is the right size to be your avatar. lol

jodyand · 01-21-2005, 07:13 PM

Here it is in jpeg and blown up to 150x150.

mark777 · 01-21-2005, 07:32 PM

Jodyand Thanks, I'm a little PC challenged.

BTW, that is not the one I painted, it is just one I had on file from the Chenoweth homepage...I think.

Mark

Durwood · 01-21-2005, 07:46 PM

Mark, can that paint at tsc be mixed different colors or you just buy the stock colors they have?

Durwood

mark777 · 01-21-2005, 08:07 PM

Durwood,

I'm afraid it's right off the shelf colors. They have about 20 different ones.

I just got off the phone (and e-mail) with a gentleman named David Nash. He is the main man from technical support from Valspar. My questions were the same as yours and wanted to know if toners and mixing machines were available. I also asked about clear coat and U.V. screeners concerning long exposures to sun light.

Answers: no, no and no. He did provide me with information about tip and needle sizes, ambient temperatures and solvents not to intermix....Duh. Nice guy though, kept calling me sir over and over again...made me want to polish up the old aluminum walker.

In the defense of the company; Valspar has been around a long time. A leader in Marine and industrial refinishing. I have catalyzed their red oxide primer and color, let cure for 48 hours and then Pressure washed the finish. And I'm talking 6 HP Honda professional pressure washer....Bullet proof. I even painted a roto-tiller and had some over spray on the underside where no prep was done.....it did not come off.

So, FWIW the paint is excellent considering the cost is approximately $8. a QT and $9 per pint of hardener.

Mark

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