BelarusBulldog

Bill, with the engine OFF, look inside the inspection hole. You should see ( with a light ) if anything is moving while getting someone to move the lever and depress the clutch. Sorry, I can't help much more without being there. Let us know what you find. P.S. Hope you have a GREAT year, when all this is behind you.

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Big_T

Your 2-stage clutch is gone. Common problem. Need to split the tractor to replace. Try to find a competent tractor mechanic to do the job - Ford/New Holland dealer charges too much.

BILL CROOK

Big_t
ohhh --- that's just great !!! Not really what i wanted to hear but kinda suspected it. Bulldog mentioned i should look behind the inspection plate. Is there something i should look for that can verify that "the 2-stage clutch" is gone ???
If i need to get it fixed --- will i need an older mech that mite be familiar with that kind of set up ?? What kind of parts would i need after he got in there and are they available ?? If so ----- where ??? Is it a farely simple or complicated job ??
Thanks -- bar bill

ErnieS

You might try looking at the PTO clutch as someone depresses the pedal all the way. It could be a throw-out bearing or fork problem or the disk could be rusted tight to the fly wheel.
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BILL CROOK

i have been told about typing caps but i find it's easier not to go from one to the other.
evidently the pto cluch is a part of or separate and / or is operated by the same machanics as the tractor clutch. the shop manual didn't show anything of that sort (disc type clutch). shows only shafts and gears. i wondered how that worked. i had trouble this summer with the "tractor" clutch sticking. because of high humidity --- the plate stuck to the disc. i was told to hook up to a plow and work the tractor with the clutch depressed, until it broke loose. i did --- and it did. could it be that the pto clutch stuck at the same time ??? i don't know if the pto / clutch worked before this last summer cause i never used it. i've only had the tractor for a couple years. if that is the case --- can that be seen through the inspection opening ?? if so --- how can i tell by looking ?? if so --- can that be broke loose to ?? how ??
you guys are great help --- thanks again ---- bar bill

BILL CROOK

i'd guess the pto clutch plate is stuck to the disc --- the same as happened to the transmission clutch and plate (rust -- high humidiy) this summer --- which i broke loose by loading it up. (plowing). if i were to divise a force / pry bar attached to the pto shaft --- working it back and forth -- would it possibly loosen the pto clutch ?? how fragile are the gears inside --- i wouldn't want to do more damage than good ?? if that wouldn't work -- i'd guess we'll split the tractor.
bar bill

BILL CROOK

Fyi:
Solved my "stuck pto clutch" problem.
Took my ford to the local junior college. They have a "farm impement "class there. Pretty impressive one i might add. They hooked the pto to a "dyno" -- loaded her up and the pto clutch broke loose.
Thanks for all the input guys. I find the world is full of knowlege -- we just have to keep passing it on.
Bar bill in iowa

DaveDor

Always great then the fix is "easy" and inexpensive. Thanks to all for the knowledge gained.