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07-05-2010, 08:26 PM
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ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIELS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hoodoo Valley, Idaho
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10 Easy Ways To Ruin A Perfectly Good Tractor
10 Easy Ways to Mess Up a Good Tractor
by By Steve Thompson
We know you've never done any of these. But the next time your neighbor does, you'll know how to fix it.
Tractors are loyal servants. Still, they cannot always overcome the misguided operating skills of their owners. Their rush to finish a job—and their firm belief that warning lights are only advisory—can bring even the finest piece of machinery to its knees. With help from tractor-service technicians, we've compiled a list of dumb things some tractor owners do.
1. Filling the diesel fuel tank with gasoline. Ah, the mighty diesel engine, rough and rugged. . . until you pour in gasoline. The first thing you hear is a loud "pinging" sound. Next, your pistons take on interesting new shapes. Last, you write a check for a new engine. Solution: There is a good reason why the decal by the diesel tank on a diesel tractor says "diesel fuel only."
2. Failing to tighten the engine oil drain plug. The oil needs to stay with the engine. The oil drain plug keeps it there. So why does it mysteriously loosen itself after oil changes? My theory is that the plug is installed and finger-tightened. When you go to get the wrench to tighten the plug, something breaks your concentration (like a cell phone call from your neighbor who wants to know what happens when you put gasoline in a diesel engine). The drain plug never gets tightened, and an engine bearing molds itself to the crankshaft. Pull out the checkbook. Solution: Always check for leaks. If the oil gauge reads "0" or the oil light is red (techs call it the "idiot light"), stop the engine. Or, it will stop by itself.
3. Stringing lights, radio, GPS or fan onto your electrical system without going through a fuse. Electrical circuits on tractors are protected by fuses and breakers. Each circuit is designed to carry a certain number of amps. But tractors always need more lights. So you grab the headlight wire, strip the insulation, splice in a new wire and tape it. When the fuse blows, you install a higher amp fuse. When it blows, tinfoil or a piece of wire closes the connection. Great idea—until your tractor burns to the ground. Solution: Check the number on that fuse—the original fuse. That's the circuit's rating. If it blows, find out why the circuit is drawing too many amps.
4. Operating a tractor too fast. Tractors are designed for slow operation in rough terrain—not the 33-degree banks at the Talladega Speedway. Go too fast over rough ground and you can leave front axle parts—even entire axle assemblies—on the ground. I was cruising through tall grass in a new field one time. The right front tire fell off after I ran onto an old, open well. The front axle broke, and I got bruised up. Solution: If you have the need for speed, move onto the road (in something other than a tractor). Tractor rollovers happen before you can react.
5. Putting dirty fuel in your tractor. Dirty or contaminated fuel in a tractor, whatever fuel type it uses, is a problem. The injector pump is a very precise component and will not drink water or debris. Solution: If your tank and fuel system are dirty, you may have to remove and clean your tractor's fuel tank. Don't forget to clean your supply tank too.
6. Never servicing the hydraulic and electrical systems. The hydraulic and electrical systems are easily ignored because the tractor will usually start and the hydraulics will work, even if not perfectly. But buy just one new hydraulic pump and you'll remember to service it next time. The battery is the heart of your electrical system. Inspect all wires often, and keep your battery secure so it doesn't shake around. Inspect your positive cable. If it shorts, you could have a fire because there is usually no fuse or breaker protection for this battery cable. Solution: The fix is simple. Always service the hydraulic and electrical systems, look for leaks and check for bare wires.
7. Operating the tractor with your foot resting on the clutch pedal. A foot that rides the clutch will soon put you in the market for a throw-out bearing, a clutch and pressure plate, or both. Solution: Most clutches require about an inch of "free travel" when they are properly adjusted. Always remove your foot from the clutch pedal after the clutch is released.
8. Failing to keep the radiator clean. It's not too rare an event for an engine to burn up due to dirt clogging the radiator cooling fins. Solution: If your engine registers hot, try what we do in the shop. Blow and wash the dirt from the radiator. But be careful with high-pressure water or air. The pressure can bend the radiator fins.
9. Not servicing the air filter. The air filter is the engine's lifesaver. The time it takes for the filter to get dirty is only determined by the dust in the air where your tractor is running. Solution: Service your filter more often in extreme conditions. If your engine begins to smoke, check your filter. Remember: No air in, no power out. Some tractors are equipped with an air filter gauge or a light. This shows you the amount of air restriction in the filter.
10. Running the tractor out of diesel. You thought the fuel gauge didn't work. You knew you were low on fuel. The red light and dinging bells meant nothing to you because you just wanted to finish the job. OK, OK, so you didn't break anything when you ran it out of fuel, but you surely lost time. Solution: Keep plenty of fuel in the tank so you won't have to pay the service technician to bleed the lines and change the fuel filters. Your first-place ribbon is your service invoice.
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Oh Beautiful for smoggy skies, insecticided grain,
For strip-mined mountain's majesty above the asphalt plain.
America, America, man sheds his waste on thee,
And hides the pines with billboard signs, from sea to oily sea. _______________________________________________ Some say I have a bad attitude...... "Screw them!"
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07-06-2010, 06:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: , Maine
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Beam,
Thanks for the info. As a new tractor owner I really appreciate this type of information.
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07-06-2010, 09:08 AM
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ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIELS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hoodoo Valley, Idaho
Posts: 5,451
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I've always been a bit of a preventative maintenance buff, but even this list got me looking a bit harder at what I do.
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Oh Beautiful for smoggy skies, insecticided grain,
For strip-mined mountain's majesty above the asphalt plain.
America, America, man sheds his waste on thee,
And hides the pines with billboard signs, from sea to oily sea. _______________________________________________ Some say I have a bad attitude...... "Screw them!"
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07-06-2010, 12:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 6
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All good stuff there Mr. Beam.
Reckon it’s a coincidence I read the same thing yesterday. Good information needs to be shared I’m thinkin.
Last edited by tractor beam; 12-26-2010 at 11:27 AM.
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07-06-2010, 08:57 PM
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ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIELS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hoodoo Valley, Idaho
Posts: 5,451
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The internet is loaded with this sort of info, but I honed in on a few things I never really thought about, so I thought I'd put it on here as well.
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Oh Beautiful for smoggy skies, insecticided grain,
For strip-mined mountain's majesty above the asphalt plain.
America, America, man sheds his waste on thee,
And hides the pines with billboard signs, from sea to oily sea. _______________________________________________ Some say I have a bad attitude...... "Screw them!"
Last edited by tractor beam; 07-06-2010 at 09:03 PM.
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07-10-2010, 03:21 PM
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Chief Ranch Wrench
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Jose, CA, Bear Flag Republic
Posts: 10
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Number 5
I thought the can of fuel might be bad. It was.
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07-12-2010, 08:29 PM
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RICK THE PLUMBER
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 988
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11 Let me use it, HA HA
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08-02-2010, 07:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 12
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Really good info! Its a lot of basics but if you watch the small stuff it helps keep the bad stuff away.
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11-29-2010, 07:04 AM
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Collector
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: , Florida
Posts: 1,180
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I know this is an old thread - some of those listed would apply to the smaller lawntractors as well- a few experiences ive come across :
Neighbor accidentally put kerosene in his 2 cycle weedeater- i tried for hours to find out why it wouldnt start- it never occured to me itd be the 'fuel' .
Picking up a couple lawntractors cheep ( real cheep) - come to find out why owner couldnt get em running is :
1. Lack of oil makes rods break and other nasty stuff happen
2. Engines full of water cant turn over
3. Lawntractors shouldnt be left outside uncovered - water gets in everything, even gear boxes and weeds grow from the seats
4. Inventive super cheep people shouldnt be allowed to 'fix' their tractors - makes it harder to fix them correctly
I suppose if people did do things properly, i wouldnt be getting them so cheep tho.....
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11-29-2010, 09:46 AM
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ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIELS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hoodoo Valley, Idaho
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I can't help but laugh DT! That Stihl saw I found at the dumpsters......... It had a new bar and chain. I mean brand new! I grabbed it out of the trash and did a field check of the compression and it was great! Checked the gas. Out! This by the way is one of three, I've found there, took it home and filled it up with gas and it fired right up. It wouldn't shut off though! I had to open it up, took 3 minutes, and hooked the kill linkage up, and have been using it for about 9 years now. The kill linkage did come unhooked one time in that 9 years, but otherwise, it's been a great saw. The other 2 saws I found in the trash, as well as a weed whacker, all either Stihls or Huskies, were simular stories, and are still going here on the farm!
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Oh Beautiful for smoggy skies, insecticided grain,
For strip-mined mountain's majesty above the asphalt plain.
America, America, man sheds his waste on thee,
And hides the pines with billboard signs, from sea to oily sea. _______________________________________________ Some say I have a bad attitude...... "Screw them!"
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11-29-2010, 06:36 PM
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RICK THE PLUMBER
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 988
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Wheres tht dumpster?
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11-30-2010, 11:23 PM
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Collector
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: , Florida
Posts: 1,180
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Tractor beam: It amazes me- really on how people are with stuff. A few years back i had a near perfect RER murray- i dont really like RER's - so i put it out for a cheep enough $200 ( had a decent running motor, i re did all the wiring, cleaned it all up) - guy stops by and mentions he has a lawntractor that wont run and wondered about some horse trading for my RER - im like " sure thing". The tractor turns out to be one exactally like i had back north- a 99 widebody murray - so im like " How about $100 cash and i take your tractor for the RER?" - I told him of stuff he should do regular on the tractor ( had a tendency to leak gas by the carb when off- i installed a shut off valve) - he nearly blew the thing up within a week because " it was too much trouble to shut a valve off"- he did eventually get another motor for it . He also was like " If y wanna sell the 99 - let me know" - i was thinking " Fat chance- im keeping it".
The 99 had the 'no oil and thrown rod' issue - i had a brand new 13HP briggs i got off a local guy that i swapped on it, had to buy 2 new blades and has been running great ever since.
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12-01-2010, 04:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 84
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More often than not, if you take care of the little stuff most of the big stuff takes care of itself.
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12-01-2010, 05:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: webster, NY
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The battery is the heart of your electrical system. Inspect all wires often, and keep your battery secure so it doesn't shake around. Inspect your positive cable. If it shorts, you could have a fire because there is usually no fuse or breaker protection for this battery cable.
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I annually take off all of the connections and clean them up. Bad grounds can cause tons of trouble and loose, dirty connections can cause excessive drain on a battery. Batteries usually lose 15% a month so i charge my battery every other month or so.
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12-05-2010, 06:34 AM
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Collector
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: , Florida
Posts: 1,180
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Most that stuff would fall under 'normal maintence' - twice a year for lawntractors.
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12-05-2010, 09:40 AM
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ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIELS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hoodoo Valley, Idaho
Posts: 5,451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmith335
Wheres tht dumpster? 
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Spread all over Bonner and Kootenei county. The dumpster site that always has good stuff is in Twin Lakes, a very wealthy neighborhood, but the 3 saws I've found all came from Priest River, out by the Green Owl tavern, where the loggers hang out. You'd think someone would have known, or maybe they got tossed by accident. Who knows!
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Oh Beautiful for smoggy skies, insecticided grain,
For strip-mined mountain's majesty above the asphalt plain.
America, America, man sheds his waste on thee,
And hides the pines with billboard signs, from sea to oily sea. _______________________________________________ Some say I have a bad attitude...... "Screw them!"
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12-26-2010, 01:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: elma, wa
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One simple tip I have always followed on my inboard boat diesels, as well as my Yanmar tractor, is to write the engine hrs. on the filter when you do the oil and filter change. I just use a Sharpe, and write the date and hours on the filter so all I have to do is look down when I pull the dipstick before the first start of the day to know the status of my oil. I do the same thing on the Hdy filter as well. I have not found a way to do it on the fuel filters as yet.
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12-26-2010, 11:30 AM
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ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIELS
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hoodoo Valley, Idaho
Posts: 5,451
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Piece of tape that sticks to the filter and forms a tongue then back to the filter?
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Oh Beautiful for smoggy skies, insecticided grain,
For strip-mined mountain's majesty above the asphalt plain.
America, America, man sheds his waste on thee,
And hides the pines with billboard signs, from sea to oily sea. _______________________________________________ Some say I have a bad attitude...... "Screw them!"
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02-03-2011, 08:25 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: pilot mtn, nc
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This is good advice, I know I really needed this info.
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02-19-2011, 07:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Saint John, In
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Can I add #11? Don't let the wife, BIL (either of them), FIL, or sister operate the tractor for ANY reason, they won't/can't follow 1-10, they are just to smart to follow instructions.
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