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Ranch Hand · 03-15-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by Simpleprestige

I have yet to see ANYTHING without an affiliation with China. It's depressing

I understand.
I / we work on all makes of tractors / implements and are never made here in the USA it seems.

I never thought I would be importing from China. I will have to say that I have seen /purchased some preety good stuff here lately ..... I do belive quality is getting better.

My father owned a Oliver then White tractor dealer ship growing up ....... it sure ain't like it use to be >

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply

Live Oak · 03-15-2009, 05:39 PM

American products and industry are no longer competive and they are about to take a HUGE nose dive. Almost NOTHING is 100% made in the USA any longer.

How's that change coming along that so many voted for?

Mr_Phill · 03-15-2009, 07:20 PM

From a millwrights perspective, I would use a few chains and binders to keep it from seperating further, while wrapping that visible shaft in cloth then duct tape to prevent further damage.
When we cant take things apart on site, we bind them to prevent further loosening then pick em up an haul em off to a shop.
Use a rubber tire fork lift to sit it on a flatbed wrecker.
That unit isnt all that heavy and its likely the fork lift can be rented for a couple hrs cheap enough...
My 3 Cents...

gravning · 03-16-2009, 12:16 PM

I was also considering the chains and binders option. The problem is that I'm not sure where I could attach the chains without damaging something else. Also (see photo) I'm not sure a large forklift could pick it up - there is really nothing solid in front of the backhoe frame.

I'm actually considering just detaching the various lines and linkages and let it split where it broke and lifting the two pieces with a crane onto my trailer. The problem with that is that I would have to get underneath the tractor to pull the front pins that hold the backhoe to the tractor. I'm not thrilled with the idea of working under the tractor in it's present state. The dirt under the tractor is very soft and unstable because I was filling in a utility trench when it broke.

Mr_Phill · 03-17-2009, 12:20 AM

decide how much weight you have to move. make a decision to get it done and do it.
there is no perfect way to do this kind of move.
there is only a moving forward decision. bind it, move it. Any other aspect will only cost you more time and money. Unless the dealer does it, You got it to do Bro.
you could buy my gas, and I will come up there an spank dat puppy while assuming responsibility for maintaining its current condition.
I promise you , I will get it on the truck/trailer without bringing the end of the world.
This is what I do for a living. move it fix it, make it work and make it last....
Best drive buy you ever didnt see on the news.....

Mr Phill
call me an make it happen...

chrpmaster · 03-17-2009, 06:18 AM

There you go gravning. Pay Phil to fix come up and fix it. Of course you may have to put up with his questionable hygiene but you'll get your tractor fixed

Mr_Phill · 03-17-2009, 10:08 AM

Dear Mr Chrp!!
I will have you know I absolutely Reasemble dat remark !!!

mm?? dat dont quite read right....

Check this photo. It is the view of my driveway from the street.
Past the truck you can see it goes down aways, then turns a little left and starts up an 8% grade hill that runs for about 1/4 mile. The neighbors call it deadmans run. When it's raining or after a good rain for a few days, only I use it, no visitors and no worries about the wife following me To date, 2 ups trucks, 1 mail driver. 3 insurance people and misc other visitations have been in the 12ft ditch at the bottom.
Will post the ditch area later on.

Live Oak · 03-17-2009, 10:42 AM

Now THAT'S my kinda driveway!

gravning · 03-17-2009, 12:09 PM

Thanks for the offer to come "Spank Dat Puppy" but I am located in Bellingham Wa - about 6000 miles round trip. I hope you drive a Prius and not a F350!

Mr_Phill · 03-17-2009, 01:22 PM

I come to the Sound every year to build cabins and do custom work. Maristone Island etc. Port Hadlock is my favorite stompin Ground not to mention the fishing is awesome.!
Talk to Paul at Hadlock Supply and he will tell you I can get it done. Tell him you know a Georgia Boy by the name of Mr Phill.
FYI, I lived east of tacoma off the mountain before coming south east back in 03.
Some people work mear or at home, I work where the work is whenever I can get it!!!!
Gimme a Holler, sent you my number , check yer PM's....
This Photo is at the end of the 7/8's mile driveway. I found it abandoned last march and took this photo between drools. 7100 sf heated space, 2400 sf shop in the rear. commercial frame and 28" box trussing between the floors. I need your money !!!! so i can finish it

I will fix dat tractor !!!

chrpmaster · 03-17-2009, 10:30 PM

I hear a deal coming together now!! Sounds like your tractor may get fixed soon gravning.

Mr Phill I like your "fixer upper" is it yours or just one you are drooling over?

Mr_Phill · 03-17-2009, 10:53 PM

The fixer upper is attached to mine. It doesent look quite that bad any more, but I have yet to do much on the exterior.
The original builder abandoned it back in 05, and it sat un attended untill I found it in March last year.
IN the mean time, local pilferage accounted for $30k in wiring, 10k in fixtures windows and doors etc..
What you see in that photo in what I found in addition to new trees etc growing up in all the wrong places.
Willpost a power point with timeline in a few days , give ya an idea what Im dealing with...
Preciate yer interest in my little piece of heavens Hell !!

Heres a shot of the rear the first time I saw it...
Peace

chrpmaster · 03-18-2009, 08:47 AM

What are you plans for it? Are you going to finish it and sell it or is that going to be your new "guest house" for all us TF members who want to stop by for a visit?

Hey that sounds like a great field trip for the gang. Lets all go to Phil's place and help him with his project. I know how to swing a hammer... sometimes I even remember which end to use

Mr_Phill · 03-18-2009, 09:06 AM

Guest House U say ??
The Second building is a 2 story 1200 sf per floor so called Garage. I say garage because it has a garage door.
Based on what I found inside, it appears to be a guest house or maybe motherinlaw kinda deal.
It was fully wired and plumbed for kitchen bath, it's own septic system etc, the bathroom was installed and intact bath vanity, kitchen cabinets etc. The room on the garage door side was packed full of 4x8 ply and 20 or so cabinets and tons of tile groiut an mortar which assume the thieves found to heavy or just didnt have a market for. It is currently used as the shop and storage.
We plan on living here for now. given the value of this based on $150 a sf, if someone wants it when Im done, they can fer sure make an offer, I would rather be back out west.
Heres a photo of the errmmm shop/garage. Looks like a lot of homes if ya ask me but havent decided what it's gonna be yet.
Yawl come on out here an have some Q and a Brew why dont ya, I got a spot U can rack out in

chrpmaster · 03-18-2009, 08:46 PM

Sounds like a great plan Phill. I like the picture of you taking a picture of the garage. Kind of a double exposure

It also sounds like you have more than your share of projects for the next many years. Good luck and keep sharing those pics.

Andy

ARTRAC · 04-01-2009, 08:20 AM

I have only heard of a very few JInmas breaking this way, and it seems they all had the factory loader and most had the factory subframe backhoe. The subframe attaches to the loader brackets with a pin and it acts like a hinge. Add teh weight of the backhoe on the rear and a full bucket on the front, bounce along at a good speed or suddenly stop the bucket while dropping a full load by letting off the handle before it hits the ground and you have a recipe for troulbe.

There is no JINMA representation in the US. the Jinmas are imported and supported by the individual importers. This is true of almost all Chinese tractors. The Importer is your only support, other than aftermarket parts suppliers.

I only imported a few JINMAs as I was a Farm Pro dealer for several years but I happen to have a slightly used housing in stock. probably have the input and PTO shafts too if yours are bent. We swpapped transmissions due to a noise and saved the parts.

Live Oak · 04-01-2009, 09:12 AM

Hi Chip! Good to see you posting. How have you been?

ARTRAC · 04-01-2009, 07:58 PM

Been good. I've dropped in here a couple times, not a lot of conversation about the Chiense tractors. I'm also a KIOTI dealer, maybe I should be more thorough in reviewing the posts. Our business continues to grow. Now brining in DF tractors under teh AgTrac and now soon to be ARTRAC brand name. very nice tractors, most advanced Chassis I have found to date in under 50HP tractor from China with syncro suttle trans. hydros on the horizon. Also just became a dealer for YTO tractors for 40 HP and up to 125. Survived the Farmtrac debacle. still here!

chrpmaster · 04-02-2009, 09:15 PM

Thats good to hear Chip. So your going to have your own line of tractors. Very cool. Soon they will be talking about the 4 big brand name tractors.

Andy

ARTRAC · 04-03-2009, 06:32 AM

Well we have had it for a couple years, agtrac, but we had a trademark problem and partnership change so renaming them Artrac.... you can see the tractors at www.agtractractor.com

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