chrpmaster

Well once again I did it to myself.

I was changing the fuel filter on my new (to me) Yanmar and got some air in the fuel line. No problem, I thought, I'll just follow the service manual directions and bleed the system. Well I loosened the bleeder screw and cranked the key for a few seconds, got a good flow of fuel out and then tightened the bleeder screw. I didn't think I turned the screw very hard but it broke off near the head. Well after a few colorful expressions of my joy at the situation I called Hoye Tractor and ordered a replacement. Of course while I'm ordering I might as well replace the transmission oil drain plug since the old one's threads are stripped and chewed up. Plus I always wanted an operators manual since I have never owned a diesel tractor. The nice people at Hoye were happy to send all that to me UPS ground for $11.80 for the shipping. They said it should be to me in about 3 days. No problem until the it finally shows up on the 7th day. Oh well I will have to wait til tomorrow to go install the parts so I grab the owners manual out of the box and leave the parts and retire to the throne room for some quality reading time.

The next day is trash day and my daughter didn't notice the small bag of parts in the bottom of the box under the packing materials so she took it out curb with the other trash.

Needless to say I was not happy but couldn't completely blame my daughter. The parts guy at Hoye did a good job not laughing out loud at my situation when I called for replacements. Of course the parts were $8 and the shipping is, you guessed it, $11.80! He said I should have them in 3 days. I expect them by June.

Then I was replacing the oil seal in one of my Gravely mower decks. My son was excited because this was the first year I was going to let him use my prized Gravely. It is a large oil seal that fits around the shaft and you must get to it from underneath the deck. So I flip the mower deck over, remove the blade and spacers and remove the old seal. So I went to install the new seal, gently tapping around the perimeter. After I have it most of the way on I notice a little excess rubber sticking up where the seal meets the shaft. So I take a screw driver and shove it back in. Of course the screw driver slips and pushes right through the edge of the seal! I get it off to check the damage and the inner part of the seal is ripped. So I called Richards to order another one.

Definitly not my most productive day!

I needed lots of liquid pain killer to get over that day.

Andy

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Simpleprestige

Hey, I've had worse, try golfing and having your pitching wedge be your longest club.

On that same day I found out that the self scan things at meijer will not scan fruit. Much to the laugghter of everyone in the vicinity including the staff.

I went home thoroughly humbled.

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Live Oak

You took that in stride MUCH better than I would have Andy.

chrpmaster

I wrote this long enough for adult beverages to kick in. Medication if great.

Andy

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mark777

Andy,

You shouldn't have to crank the engine to bleed the fuel lines on Your Yanmar.

There are three bleed screws (two abouve the fuel filter/shuf off valve and one at the pump), and with a fairly full tank of diesel, gravity and bleeding the screws sequentially from the rear (fuel tank side) middle and finally at the front pump banjo fitting and (decompression handle pulled) it will start after a few revolutions.

Mark

Simpleprestige

Mark777, it seems to me like you are just rubbing it in. No, just kidding.

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chrpmaster

Thanks Mark

I will try your method of bleeding the system when i finally get (and don't throw away) the new parts. It will probably need it since the bleeder screw has been out for about three weeks.

I don't think Mark was rubbing it in Simple. I would have broken the bleeder screw off no matter what method I used.

Andy

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mark777

....No, quite honestly, there isn't anything more frustrating about the typical Japanese diesel when they run out of fuel.

Other than the "J" designation in the engine number, which indicates built for John Deere, these YM series Yanmar's don't have any assist like a lift pump between the fuel tank and injector. And you can aggravate the problem of hard starting by spooling up the engine while bleeding off through the bleeding screws, or worse, cracking the lines at the injectors.

Once you run out of fuel, the fool-proof method to bleed the system successfully is to start at the rear bleed screw at the top of the fuel filter bowl (shut off valve). There are two located above this valve and starting at the rear, closest to the fuel tank, open the bleed screw for a full, messy and long ten seconds....close the bleed screw and proceed to the next one and do the exact same thing. And finally the same thing at the banjo fitting bleed screw at the top of the injector pump.

Trust me (LOL). Four years ago I allowed my YM1610D to run out of diesel fuel. I tried every method to get this tractor to start, including pulling it with a 3/4 ton pick up. I replaced the injector O rings at the top, the fuel bowl O ring, filter and glass (plastic) bowl and removed all the injector lines and blew them out with compressed air....nothing worked.

Finally, I talked with 'THE' Yanmar Guru and he told me that there is still air in the lines. I Knew he was wrong and wasting my time and hated his guts for telling me I hadn't given enough time for the fuel supply line to bleed out ALL of the air. After a full and counterproductive day of 'dinking' around, I did as he suggested and bled a full, excruciatingly long and very messy, ten seconds per bleed screw.....and the damn thing started right up.

I fell on my sword, called him back and thanked him for his wisdom. I have since run out of fuel in my other Yanmar's and by following his method (outlined above) I've never had another problem.

Mark

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booze you loose, dope you hope.

why drink because you are upset? i just run outside and grab the car and drive like a maniac (at a park) until I am happy.

LOL

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chrpmaster

woo hoo!! Success! the parts came today which for those keeping track was the day Hoye said they would show up. I immediately put them in my pocket and growled at anyone who came near me or my pocket as I made my way to the shop. I installed the banjo bolt (its the one with the bleeder screw in it) and the drain plug for the tranny. Bled the fuel system per Marks instructions. Filled the tranny with correct amount of the correct fluid. Cranked it a little and she fired right up!!

After she warmed up she just purred along (well purred as well a these two cylinder diesels ever purr). It was getting too dark to actually hook on the mower and do something so I just did some victory laps around the yard and put her away in the shop til tomorrow. Now I just need to make sure my "new" $200 Woods RM59 works and I am going to be a happy grass cutting machine!

See even bone heads catch a break occasionally.

Andy

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mark777

Way to go Andy!

Do you have an ORC (Over Run Coupler) on the PTO shaft?

I'm probably stating the obvious here...but without the ORC your Yanmar, while spinning implements like a bush hog or finish mower WILL push you all over the place (ditches, garage doors, fence posts etc...don't ask ). They run about $40 at TSC but they are well worth it. And attempting to stop the tractor and implement with your brakes....well, it aint purdy.

You can, in a pinch, run the setup and avoid transmission wind up by reaching down, depressing the clutch and pull the PTO speed lever to neutral. It stops the push but it's quite tiring after a long period of seat time.

Mark

chrpmaster

Thanks Mark

Interesting you should mention that over run clutch. My tractor came with one on it and I had read others recommeding the use of them on these type of mowers so I thought I had it whipped. Well not quite.

As you know the YM135 is not a large tractor and when I was looking at the manual I downloaded from the Woods website it said I would need to order a different PTO shaft for the mower since the distance from the lower 3pt arms to the end of the pto on the tractor was less than 18". Well I figured the Woods dealer would charge me more for the shaft than I have in the mower so after fiddling around I figured out the only option I have is either use it without the over run clutch or shorten the mower pto shaft. Since i wanted to make sure the mower worked I just took off the clutch and the shaft went on perfectly.

I tried it out mowing and the little yanny did great. Of course the mower is a little bigger than recommended for this tractor but the price was right. It had plenty of power to run the mower and mow in 2nd gear.

I still need to get a new chain(or what ever they are called) on the right lower 3pt arm to keep it from rubbing the tire. I also will need to adjust the mowing height plus grease the spindles and sharpen the blades. But overall I was very impressed with the mower and the tractors ability to handle it.

Yes I will post some pictures as soon as I get a chance. I also need to figure out a new muffler for it. The previous owner was nice enough to put a new vertical muffler on it which looks cool but after running it under load for a while my kids laughed at me since I had black polka dots from the soot flying in my face. I need to figure out a horizontal mounting for the muffler then I'll be fine. I don't know what it would have come with originally but this ain't gonna cut it! Or else I'll need to get some WW1 airforce goggles.

Andy

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Chuck in Idaho

Your daughter carries the trash? Wow! Chuck

chrpmaster

Not willingly!

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Having government manage your health care is like having Michael Vick watch your dog.

Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting to see what they will have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote.