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Old 07-03-2011, 12:31 AM   #1
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Need Help with a 700!

On my Work Horse 700 the gears grind when trying to put it in gear. Now this is all time even at a dead stop and on idle. Question does the belt on the right side of the tractor turn all time? The tractor will stop with the brake and sit still without grinding. If you take it out of gear and try to put it back in any gear it will only grind. I can start it in gear and use it that way but I have to turn it off then place it in a gear then start it again. I think that belt on the right side is not suppose to turn if the clutch is in and the idler pulley on that belt does move with the clutch. What stops that belt if it is turning gears are going to grind. The belt will slip if you stop the tractor but takes off turning again if you take it out of gear.


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Old 07-07-2011, 07:02 PM   #2
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I have a 606 and when you depress the clutch the belt tensioner pulley should pull away from the belt and stop it from gripping the engine pulley. Therefore the belt should stop spinning. Sounds like the belt isn't stopping when the clutch/brake is depressed. Pull off the side belt cover and make sure everything is tight and the spring is not disconnected from the tensioner. If I remember right there is an adjustment nut to adjust the tension of the belt. But the belt at the moment is spinning so something isn't doing its job. Btw, your tractor was built in 1969! They are simple machines and you shouldnt have issues fixing it. Tip: try to lower engine RPM's, hold down the brake for a 2-4 seconds and then shift, this should work for the moment.
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:28 AM   #3
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Does it turn all the time: Yes, as long as the Clutch/Brake pedal is not depressed. Your problem is that the belt does not stop completely every time you depress the Clutch/Brake. Find the reason and you fix the problem.

When You depress the Clutch/Brake pedal the idler is pulled away from the belt removing tension on the belt, and several "tabs" stop the belt from rotating.

I would remove the right foot rest and belt cover first. Check the belt cover (first image below) to insure the belt tab near the front is 1) present and intact, and 2) is not bent too far away from the belt (it should be straight along the bottom line of the belt cover, and the "bump" be approximately 1/16-3/16" away from the belt when the Clutch/Brake is NOT depressed). Also make sure the Idler "belt keeper" is there (second picture below) and positioned correctly (one side should only slightly touch (or pinch) the belt when the Clutch/Brake is depressed).

Your engine idle speed should not be touched unless it is NOT currently spinning at ~1000-1100 rpm at idle. Engine speed should not effect the belt from stopping when the two tabs are adjusted correctly. The belt should always stop regardless of engine speed. Changing engine speed only masks the real problem.

Here's the manual for your machine: http://www.mywheelhorse.com/graphics/file/Tractors/1-3745-3741_A-5241-1.pdf


BELT COVER TAB



IDLER PULLEY "KEEPER" TAB



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